Originally Posted by Paradox
If I remember reading correctly, the natural gold gained over time on SR is being increased, but hasn't actually been added yet to the PTR (or its bugged). So you're not actually seeing a true income for junglers just yet.
I do want to note that after 11 minutes you're talking about a measly 170 more gold
with that new ambient gold income that you're talking about. Now here is what I want the RIOT people to understand. The gold comparison for full blown jungle farming without interference on LIVE and BETA produce roughly the SAME AMOUNT OF GOLD. The only benefit is the 170ish more ambient gold, that was said to not be installed into the game yet. That means you have improved (as of right now) the new jungle by 170 gold
in 11 minutes of game clock. Now I don't know about the rest of the player base who jungle... but I don't think 170 gold
is going to replace 2 GP/10 items.
Just for giggles, on LIVE I get my Philo at around 6 minutes and HOG at around 10 in the ideal situation for maxing gold. Lot of Junglers are probably even faster than that, if they arent ganking but we'll go with mine for the fun of it. So from 6-10, Im making 120 gold from the philo, and from 10 minutes to 11, Im making 60 gold from both GP/10s. That's 180 gold
by 11 minutes
. So actually Im making more money on LIVE than on PBE in 11 minutes as a jungle with the current 2 GP/10 META.
Also if anyone wanted to know, I posted a similar thread that touches on this at,
It's long winded but very complete in detail. D Maximus and I talk about our experiences testing for gold and it seems that even at the 15 minute mark, our gold income is VERY similar. And that's just me using ONE GP/10.
Now, I do understand that you guys have a valid argument in saying, "See? The new jungle allows you to farm the same gold into mid game without getting GP/10 items that season 2 junglers required
." While this is true, what is also true is that you have stated that Junglers are economically poorer than the rest of the lanes(exeption is support). If you check the World Championships Stats, you'll notice that Junglers are about 60 gold per minute poorer
. And it was your intent to get us up on par with Lane players income. If our gold status after 15 minutes of game is arguably similar with Season 2's two GP/10 META. Then you have just created a 900 gold deficit at 15 minutes in regards to said intent
. We have to be getting that gold flow starting at the beginning...not 20 minutes into the game. Just something to think about I guess.