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You cant be serious about this ban

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DrUnne ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by WookieeCookie View Post
[COLOR="Red"]Don't be a jerk.[/COLOR]

Players frequently write to my team full of excuses for their case, or fearful that they're going to get banned in the future.

They often want to debate the Summoner's Code down point by point.

Is it okay to do this? What about that? What if someone else does X, and I do Y to them in retaliation? Can I get banned for Z?

And our response can always be summed up with one simple phrase:

[COLOR="red"]Don't be a jerk[/COLOR]


Sometimes player's ask why isn't the Summoner's Code more specific? Why doesn't it specify each and every action I can or can't do? But they don't notice that we wrote the Code that way on purpose.

We don't want to run a game dictated by strict specific rules. Because every game is unique, and played by different standards.


How much fun would a rule be that says you can never say the F word in your matches?

How much fun would a rule be that says last pick must always be support?

How much fun would a rule say that you can never be Rammus support because he's not considered "optimal" by the community?


Every game should be judged by its own context. And that's why the core rule is always:

[COLOR="red"]Don't be a jerk.[/COLOR]


You can say the F word in a friendly context:



You can also say it in a very toxic context:




---The key difference? [COLOR="Red"]Don't be a jerk[/COLOR]


Sometimes it makes sense for last pick to be something besides support:


Sometimes the situation can be very toxic:



---The key difference? [COLOR="Red"]Don't be a jerk[/COLOR]


Sometimes it makes sense to go with a real unusual support pick:



Sometimes an unusual pick can be really toxic:



---The key difference? [COLOR="Red"]Don't be a jerk[/COLOR]


I've seen this case emote spamming case before. And he fails the test. [COLOR="Red"]He was being a jerk.[/COLOR]

You can see in his matches that other players ask him to stop. They even do so nicely at some points. But this player doesn't care. [COLOR="red"]He doesn't care because he's being a jerk.[/COLOR]

Is he using a feature of our game which has many legitimate purposes? Of course!

But is he abusing this legitimate feature to be a [COLOR="red"]jerk[/COLOR]? Yes. He is literally spamming the same phrase throughout the entire duration of the game.

Could other players fiddle with their sound settings to disable this? Sure.

Should we expect other players to adjust their player experience because a [COLOR="Red"]jerk [/COLOR]is harassing them?

No. Never.

I even spent some extra time looking up this player's past harassment history. This is not an isolated 5 games this player has done this. He has repeatedly found ways to annoy and harass other players. That's the main reason he has a tribunal case in the first place.

Lyte has mentioned this in the past, but the Tribunal is really great at finding jerks in our game. But it's not always great at providing the full context of just how much of a jerk they are. But always keep in mind it takes many reports, in many games, by many people to even be considered for the Tribunal. The system may only pull 1 to 5 chat logs for a case, but make no doubt about it, the accused has been reported in many many more games than that.

The process is always being iterated on and improved though. And if the PB&J Team sees a need for the additional context to be shown, I'm confident in their abilities to make that happen.
Amen!

 
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Krimson62 ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2012

The logic is still stupid, he was doing it to have fun, not to be a jerk.

Only in one game did they ask him to stop.

Lyte you get more information than the tribunal, but according to the information the tribunal had should be the only information used to judge.

You having to look into his other games proves there was not enough information in the games we had to warrant a ban

In the end you get a final say, but it doesn't change the fact you approve bans for emoting. which is sad.

 
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flyingtoasters ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2012

good thing you quoted that

 
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Best LeeSinga NA ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2012

Riot: well you cant get banned for using something we put in the game and its your fault so yeah go do whatever

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DrUnne ?? Senior Member
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good thing you quoted that
Thank you kindly sir!

 
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Thalandor46 ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by WookieeCookie View Post
Don't be a jerk.
Wheaton's Law has always been my standard. It's so wonderful to hear a red (effectively) reinforce it!

 
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Zeospartan ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2012

Everyone who uses the Nunu bot skin must be banned then.

 
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Krimson62 ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Zeospartan View Post
Everyone who uses the Nunu bot skin must be banned then.
And dear god help dragon trainer lulu players.

The only time the skin is even doing anything noticeable is when you emote

 
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InfinAce ?? Member
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11-26-2012

Maybe you should include how many times a person has been reported within the last month in the reform card. Then people who deserve bans wouldn't be as convincing.

 
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DepressiveMan ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2012

I have never been more serious in my entire life OP.