Holy Hecarim! A RED? This got a RED?? Awesome!
Okay, back to lore:
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Originally Posted by Prince Kassad
I want Evelynn to get her new bio so bad! Where is the LORE? T_T
And what about Maokai? His story doesn't make sense anymore. I'm guessing that he is now going to be older, in that he was one of the trees on the Shadow Isles from before it became the Shadow Isles? But his in-game VO implies that he has became conscious relatively recently... which is an aspect about him that I like. I'm kind of upset that his lore will have to be changed, because it is excellent now. I dont want him to be a casualty of the Twisted Treeline rework, but I can't imagine that his lore isn't going to become convoluted.
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Yes, Maokai's lore IS somewhat problematic - and that, along with the fact that he is not tied to the Altars of the new Twisted Treeline (as in: he does not give off the special Shadow Isles quotes but instead the generic ones), is why I decided to exclude him.
IF I had to try and tie him to the undeath of the Shadow Isles, however, I'd look at his Haunted Maokai skin and claim that he is sort of construct powered by multiple souls (the dominant Maokai soul, the sapling soul(s), and a soul that inhabits his larger arm (hence the laughing from it).
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Originally Posted by Overlord Forte
Evelynn's theory is interesting, but conversely its entirely possible she's a forward agent for the ruling power of the Isles?
An assassin mustering influence would be very useful in getting ties with the ruling elite of different societies. Favors could be called in to strengthen the Isles, and or weaken prospective targets before an invasion.
As a whole I'm not terribly favored with the whole 'rule the world' plot the Shadow Isles could possibly be involved with. A global war would weaken the world, even if the Shadow Isles won and all were undead, enough the Void could pierce the veil and win soundly. Perhaps the Isles is getting ready for the Void's incursion? They have plenty of forward scouts on the Runeterra plane now.
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I actually had a theory on this recently:
During on the Journals of Justice Karthus was found dead near a battle between Kassadin and Malzahar outside of the Institute and Fields. After his ressurection (simple, due to that he was already dead) his only response to being asked why he was there was "protecting the inhibitor."
Now, what do the Inhibitors do? In fact, what is the basic definition of them? The root word inhibit means to "hold something in check", so, naturally, that is what inhibitors do. Now, WHICH of those two champions - Malzahar and Kassadin - could be considered inhibitors?
I'll give you a hint: Kassadin. Kassadin is an inhibitor against the void, holding it incheck and making sure it does not spill into Runeterra. This seems to imply that Karthus had been aiding Kassadin in the fight. But why?
Now, the lore for Karthus has changed since then, but with it comes a possibility: he was doing it to make sure that the Void doesn't get in (duh) SO that the SHADOW ISLES would be the force to overtake Runeterra!
Because the two have VERY different goals: The Void wants to devour the planet while the Shadow Isles, from the looks of their abilities and lore, merely want to enslave the planet in undeath. So what we're looking at is an unofficial alliance between the Shadow Isles and Kassadin's deffenders to ensure that the Void Does not reach the world (Kassadin's goal) so that they wont be a threat to the Shadow Isles (Karthus/Hec/Morde/ect. goal)!
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Originally Posted by HerbaNoctis
Or, if you would just put on your tinfoil hat for a second, you would see the truth.
That truth being that those working towards the rise of the Void and those working towards the rise of the Shadow Isles are working for the same, mysterious power.
Really, do you think it's a coincidence that both Icathia and the King disappeared during the Rune Wars? The creatures of the Void are the King's experiments, as are the undead of the Shadow Isles. When the two experiments are reconciled, there will be an army of undead monsters that are designed to be perfect in every way. Strong, fast, smart, stealthy, and adaptable.
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I once had a similar idea, but I ended up scrapping it in favor of the above theory (the Shadow Isles aiding the morals against the Void for the benefit of the Isles). Too much tinfoil not enough concrete for me in the "Void-Isles Alliance" theory.
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Originally Posted by MrHarz
Where does the Ruined King fit into your theory?
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Originally Posted by Ask Tyrant Swain
Listen to the way the spirits talk to Yorick. The wife is ironic to him (''Alas, poor Yorick'') while the husband pushes him around. It's pretty clear that he is just the gravedigger to them, and was probably a punching bag in life. The only reason that he is worthy enough to be a SI champion is probably because he can create ghouls, which might be some rare necromantic gift on the SI, but it doesn't make him any less of a pushover.
Morde was probably the general of the Ruined King (confirmed by a red on reddit that the Ruined King is the ruler of SI) while they were conquering the Isles. As his gift he received part of the Ruined King's power (enslaving souls) and was bound to the armor to eternally serve his king. Yet, for the suffering that the Ruined King has put on him he plans to overthrow him. But he is still the right hand of the Ruined King, and is thus some kind of lord himself, which is how the husband spirit regards him.
The wife and husband spirit were probably the mages that led the resistance against the Ruined King's necromancy policy. He killed them and as punishment he enslaved them on the altars, close enough to sense each other's presence, yet too far to talk or see each other. When he enslaved their souls they became his eternal slaves, forced to be loyal, even if they don't want to. My theory is that the wife fought the Ruined King's power much harder than her husband that embraced it eventually, and even though she is loyal most of the time she tries to fight it. This is where her two interactions with Hecarim come into play. Her loyal side wants to warn Hecarim of Morde's plans, while her free side is trying to free him of the Ruined King's grasp by making him remember his past life.
Hecarim was a centaur, the greatest of all centaurs. And when their race was conquered by the Ruined King in his campaign he became his second general, next to Morde. His fellow horsemen that decided to join the Ruined King were gifted with becoming undead, while those that resisted had their souls sucked out and enslaved to Hecarim to serve as his personal army, which he can summon at any time he wishes to.
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This is ACTUALLY the first I've heard of this "Ruined King," so my theory doesn't hold anything with him in it - UNLESS one wants to take in the possibility that the Lord Altar IS the Ruined King (Keyword here being "Ruined" as in some manner of failure), and the Ruined portion refers to his kingdom being ruined by Mordekaiser's uprising.
The rest follows the OP.
Not to say, though, that your theory isn't very intelligent as well. In fact, in some ways it's better - incorporating items into the story in a way that I had overlooked.
My only complaint would have to be the centaur: your theory holds that they were apparently there the entire time. It may simply be due to lack of background information given by Riot, but there has been narry a mention of centaurs before his appearence; this leads ME to believe he is from another continent or island outside of Valoran (as I said in the OP).
Good to see so many people are taking interest in this, though. I'm looking forward to any other ideas you all may have.
I'll see you on the Fields of Justice!