Sigh. That is also awesome. Love a good pun.

Unfortunately, I think this situation has shown that adding things to unobtainable skins is more harmful than helpful.

Ignore Razzy, he's a terrible troll with XXX sock accounts.

Hipp clarified that we would be getting bundle mark-downs based on what we owned in them in about a month or two. My question is simple: If I buy the bundle now (to enjoy Goth Annie during her visual rework) and this tech rolls out in 1-2 months, will I be credited at all? Or, would the 4k RP just be the price I have to pay for not waiting a month or two? Just curious, since I own every champ + every rune in the game and I was tempted to get goth annie.

Umm... but it doesn't? It only chooses from free champs and champs you own... I guess I don't get what your problem is here. But we do agree on just put her in the store, at least.

No, I'm sure it wasn't really down to her decision at that point. I don't put blame on her for reaching for that much but I do put blame on her for causing the situation in the first place. No matter how hot the coffee was. It could have been LAVA hot. She put it in a stupid place and then spilled it. She gets no sympathy from me nor does anyone who bought RP with the intent to buy Goth Annie to find out it was retracted. If I heard EVERY skin that was limited and legacy and all that jazz was going on sale tomorrow for 1 hour only, I'd wait until the sale to buy RP. Not a minute sooner. If I had a hot cup of coffee, I'd also sure as hell never put it in my lap without verifying it wasn't too hot to burn.

Exactly, if there is ANY refund at all, why not just put bundle skins up for sale at either a 975 or increased price, or hell, reduced price?

Why even try to figure out a cost for skins that have no cost via refunds?

The whole thing smells of a failure in the making, with the easy solution is to just put the skins on sale either when the bundles change prices, champs get visual reworks, or just now for simplicity sake.

kinda been up all night following this thread and have to say props to Ames, I had no idea Riot had people working 24hrs. You always respond wisely and at all hours to a variety of topics! Thanks for keeping us posted on this little debacle regarding Goth Annie.

Easily one of the best forum going Rioters out there. (would be great to get a game with you sometime! )

missing the kick*ss Bloodfury Renek icon heh-heh.

I promise if you guys do I won't downvote a thread about releasing it for limited sale if that helps at all.

But yea you're right. :< that's too bad, it's kind of not the best skin as far as today's standards go. Does that mean Huntress Sivir will stay the same when you guys redo the champion?

@RiotAmes Will you marry me?

no what you payed 3900rp for was a bunch of champs and runes. but than you got a shtty recolor skin that now looks good and you are being a total aszhat about. 10$ rp card says you are not over the age of 18.

The problem is ARAM is not following its own rules.

The random part should choose from all champs in the game, thus, random.

Not "All Pseudo-Random-Limited All Mid" as it stands now.

As you point out, players can game the system by having few champs available, giving them a better chance of getting a champ they want/is awesome in ARAMs compared to the other players who have more champs.

Ie why is it random at all?

Thus, the game is improperly coded.