This whole discussion with Griftrix is a complete waste of time. He obviously doesn't get it. He is living in an illusory world where there is no selfishness and there are no trolls who have no desire to communicate nor compromise. I can only guess that he wears blinders during the games where such individuals show up... nah nah nah nah nah... everyone is getting along... nah nah nah nah nah.

The only way to solve this issue, in my opinion, is to create two queues for people wanting to join ranked games. One queue works just the way the system does now... a free-for-all where trolls rule supreme. The second, new queue, would be one where you have to pick which role or roles you are willing to play on a team and when you're assigned to a team you're assigned one of those roles. There... everyone is happy with their position, there is no need to argue. If you don't like waiting for a team in such a queue then join the normal queue. Everyone wins.

Is this a troll post? This person seems totally unaware of all of the topics and arguments that have come up prior in this thread.

Being that the Percent would only be in RANK I don't feel it would be that bad. Honestly I do get VERY upset in rank matches when guys go "First Time Jarvan" just because they want to "Get better" at a role, when they should be trying to get better at a role in normals.

However I can see how it'd be harmful as well so I'm not arguing against what you're trying to say but to be honest when someone is trolling or raging in a select screen the entire game (select order, call) is irrelevant due to it's gonna end up bad no matter what.

Maybe a Voting Kick system would be better for a negative player in the select? That way you wouldn't have to dodge and it'd take the vote of 4 to kick/remove the negative player from the match or 3 to remove a Duo? That way we wouldn't have a troll game or dodge where we lose league points? However the kicked player would go through the same deal as if they dodged. Minus points and wait time.

This is all because of those who don't wanna play support or sometimes jungle.

As a supporter main, I can tell you this. Supporter ISN'T boring. Only unskilled ones think that supporters only place wards and share exp behind their adc. Its not.

I really wish this were something I could believe, but sadly it's not. For ranked games, maybe it just depends on your ELO where people are genuinely trying to work together and not bash each other for one simple mistake which then in turn causes the game to be a loss. But I play at Silver III and more than half of my games turn out where one person is just being an ******* and causing the loss.

For example, a recent ranked game where the adc Caitlyn takes Cleanse and Exhaust. Dies at level 2 due to an early jungle gank, proceeds to blame and harass our jungle (me) because he died. So for the next 30 minutes in the game I was called F*ggot, N*gger, and every other word in the book. Let's take a guess how that game turned out?

your upvote is from me...

i like you here, for now...

your the geuinee pig, oooo how i love test subjects coming forward so willingly in a thread obviously soooo watched by the reds.

You have played 191 ranked matches in season 3. I have played 161 ranked matches in season 3. You are bronze 1 currently, I am bronze 2. (I hate looking people up, it's so creepy ) I will assert that our experience in games queued in season 3 is almost the same. You barely have more games played than me. I wonder why my champ select experience is so different than yours. Do you think my ignorance is because I'm easy to get along with in champion select and would rather help people work things out?

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is what alot of ppl should do XD, as ive stated before in other thread, pick order should be this, helping from champion trades

First pick: Support
Second pick: ADC
Third pick: jungle
Fourth pick: mid/top
Fivfth pick: mid/top

I think is the best way to counter/anti counter, just because of that, every time im first pick i call support, and when im between the 3 first picks i never call mid or top, afraid of getting hard countered, and when im at 4° or 5° pick, i try to call for top, wich is my best role

That's hilarious. You make it sound as if all it takes nothing at all to make a change like that.

How do people get baited into these threads with Hash? It is always a statement painted more with negative emotion, that is utterly meant to rile people up. It never solves anything because it is never in any direction to solve anything, it's simply a pitchfork party.

And when you finally get either a random red (like Grift), or a red very personally and professionally indebted in the topic (Xyph responded sometime ago with a thread hash was pushing about HoG among other things), all that follows is non-sequiturs that just further to fester the wound that is the topic, and it goes nowhere.