His current scaling isn't 1.2 AD per tick, just to be clear its 0.6 per tick.

Why would I take just about anyone over Malphite or Shen? I wouldn't.

Yeah, its 1.2 per a sec, and his judgment is 220 per a sec, its just dealt every .5 as 110 damage with .6 scaling

Judgment is a weird skill

All Garen needs is a lategame scaling buff. They did the whole nerf the bases up the scaling deal that he needed, just.... minus the upping the scaling.

No it does damage every 0.5 seconds. Riot just listed it as 1.2 per bonus AD to confuse idiotic people into thinking he's fine and has a ZOMG HIGHEST AD SCALING SKILL IN GAME. Its 0.6 per Bonus AD, that's his actual scaling. That's also why AD items don't benefit him as much as Armor Penetration items do still, since his scaling is so **** low.
The actual formula is:

6 x (110 + (0.6 x your bonus AD) = Total Damage from Judgement before Armor.

Riot's description implies or confuses people into thinking that Judgement hits 3 times, but it actually hits 6 times.

I'd personally love this, but I think the devs would shudder at a Bloodrazor Garen spinning through an entire team.

Wow you obviously did not get what I was trying to say.. lmfao...

All those heroes that I listed obviously didn't go down the same path as garen. They still maintaned their degree of usefulness, while Garen DID NOT.

Misinterpretation.


Full tank Morde does loads more damage than full-tank Garen. And Morde is even widely considered a bad hero by most XD

thats exactly what I said

Judgement deals 220 a second with 1.2 ad scaling

But its split into .5 ticks of damage that deal 110 damage with .6 scaling

But hey, stay mad bro

Every melee dps has a dash-like skill that can help them chase people. garen doesn't have **** except a 2 second speed boost that cancels out his low base movement speed. besides if you do build damage what are you going to do? spin for 3 seconds then auto attack with your .8 attack speed for 8 seconds? I think you make these threads for attention because you obviously don't get enough in real life.