Originally Posted by Jabufu
I'm not going to waste the energy, since you're not going to listen. But for the record, I understand you fully, I'm saying you're wrong. But I guess mid elo is is so lofty that you cannot be questioned.
In fact I am listening, the only problem is that you're not giving me any useful input. All you are saying is that I'm wrong. If you could tell me why it is better to say there are 4 roles instead of 10 that would be great. The only time you have attempted to explain yourself was in this:
"I think you're missing the fundamental point of defining roles. The roles are based on objectives, of which there are few - capturing points, defending points, map control, and roaming/ganks - not champions, of which there are many. You can never play two different heroes identically, but that doesn't mean that because you do something different with Amumu than you do with Ezreal that there's another role to be defined."
Your main/only point is that "roles are based on objectives", of course this is true because without the objective there is no role. However one objective does not equal one role.
For example lets say you and your buddy are in one of those planes with the machine gun turret and your objective is to take out as many enemies as you can. You are an expert pilot and you've never shut a gun in your life while you're buddy is a little afraid of heights and would have never been there in the first place except for the fact that he is the best shooter out there. According to you both your roles is to destroy the enemy while according to me your role is to pilot the plane and your buddy's is to shoot the enemy. I'd like to point out that neither is wrong, I just believe that my classifications are a little more useful. When people know what they're supposed to be doing things go much more smoothly and efficiently with less chance of error.