Rylai costs a lot of cash buddy, and if you argue like that, almost every other champ is twice as deadly as Katarina with their abilities.

You can simply walk away from her - which is the useful part of her skill - otherwise you can eat her damage with a bit of MR. The cool thing about Katarina is that you build MR to counter her early game, but she does loads of physical DPS late game, so armour is needed for that. Great fun watching people wasting their Banshees charges.

Yeahhhhh she's not OP at all, seriously, compared to many other champs; I'd gladly ask Riot to give her skills mana cost just to buff her skills, otherwise, she's actually quite balanced.

(Lockedbob)

You obviously are some sort of scrub player to complain about it, your trying to think about it rationally and obviously havent played the champion more then once because if you did you would find it hardly OP.

Her blink is situational depending on nearby creeps and champions. Its not a free blink like kassadins ultimate. It doesnt even do the same damage as other equvalent spells. To compenstate for this, it has a lower cooldowns because of the cost of no hp or mana but it also does alot less damage compared to other champions abilities too.

It seems as close to balanced you can get in my opinion, but then, thats just coming from a guy who has played the champion every day since the new patch came out.

Not sure about you, but you have no foundation to your arguments which ultimately means your just a typical complainer. If you actually brought some constructive and factual evidence to support your claims it would be fine, but there isnt.

Its clear you heard of or saw that this champion uses no mana or hp to cast abilities and immediately cried OP. Well im sorry, but please go and do some testing before whining, because its obvious you havent done jack ****, and its a shame, because this is meant to be closed beta, you know, where people talk about facts and make suggestions, or make aware bugs, exploits or imbalance on a constructive level...

You dont deserve that avatar, but anyhow, yea obviously 3.3k hp is possible after you get 5 rylais, but what idiot does that?

You can get a warmogs and a rylais (one rylai is all you need) and achieve the same hp as that. Lich bane is so amazing on katarina its unbelievable, sheen is awesome as well. It shows you how much of a "pro" you are. Yes, your right, the build does include a mana crystal which is useless, but overall, its better then a rylais in terms of damage from the proc you consistantly get from using your abilities.

I dont know what world you live on, but since using the mentioned build, not once have i ever sucked arse with katarina, usually ending games well over 20 kills with very few deaths. But then, you stick with your worthless rylai stacking build, even if you do somehow achieve a good k/d/a, i can guarantee you would achieve better results with my build.

not really sure why but laughed really hard at this....

With all due respect Lockedbob, i did read your comparisons but its hardly based on facts, your trying to compare katarina to a tank, so if you made a post after that one, then yes, you ARE right, i didnt bother reading past that point because you are talking rubbish.

Katarina relies on items for slow, Tryndamere has a passive slow, and as hes a tank he has significantly more HP then katarina. If a good Tryndamere came up against katarina, he could easily 1v1 her, If she starts spinning, spin at her and through the otherside so you go out of range of her ultimate, if shes playing a non AP build, you can just tank the ultimate.

I like your humor, i havent played a practise game against other players since ive been in beta, i actually play with several friends, and we quite often come up against decent players even against 5 man premades, so yea level1 people i dont think so.

And what i find funny is how you think everyone is **** at the game to the degree you define if your good at a champion then it is OP. Sorry to burst your bubble, but being good at a champion doesnt automatically deem it OP. In fact, alot of champions i play i pick carefully based on champion research before playing them. If i dont like the way the abilities are described, i dont play the champion.

I also play a very good Sivir, maybe she needs nerfing too? I mean seriously, i press one button and leave it active and can faceroll 3 people. Nerf?

Oh and before i forget, ive not seen one theorycrafting post in this thread, so dont try and say you use hard number comparisons. What aload of bollox that is.


But as i see you want a more appropriate reply to your dr mundo + healer post, dr mundo is a bad champion, if he gets close, she can run away, if he goes to cleave you, you can easily avoid it by using your blink or simply by avoiding it. Katarina is a high movement speed champion naturally. If hes on top of you and you cant blink for a bit, then ofcourse your in big trouble, Shes a champion with an escape ability. And she has high movespeed because of her low health.

If your a healer and a tank of any sort, you shouldnt have problems killing carry champions until they have got farmed. Going back onto dr mundo and your healer, many carrys can get away when cooldowns are up, master yi has his ultimate, ashe has 3 abilities to escape with, evelyn and twitch has stealth, katarina has an inconsistant blink? Yes because thats as useful as all the other abilities listed above isnt it?

If a carry champion going in for an attack, he will go for the lowest current hitpoint champion, if there isnt one, he will go for your healer. Healers usually have lower health anyhow, and they die quickly when compared to a tank.

May i suggest you play a decent tank. Even if its not a true tank build like Cho-gath or even Tryndamere? And i dont know what your healer was playing, but even if your playing the currently weakest healer Soraka, ive not had problems keeping people alive when needed. Ofcourse, if you want to play a tank/healer lane combo, picking Kayle or the gem knight is obviously the best choices.

This is clearly why you're not getting an accurate view of this hero's strengths and weaknesses.

1) Unless you really dominated your lane and got a lot of kills, you are going to die against someone who's been fed. If not, then it would be unbalanced. If your team-mates are feeding the Katarina, don't be surprised when she turns up overlevelled, probably overgeared and kills you.

Mundo is a reasonable counter to katarina as the high hp and slow means you can generally tank her and stand a good chance of chasing her down.

2) You're clearly concerned with the move speed provided by phantom dancer. Are you aware that force of nature provides this same benefit? Not only will this give you the speed you're after, but I believe it has some nice synergy with Mundo.