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Gangplank has every tool in the game (and is stupid)

 
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AvariceX ?? Senior Member
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09-28-2009

This isn't a thread about me getting owned by Gangplank and whining about it. Quite the contrary actually. I played a game as Kassadin (irrelevant) and did pretty well, but my buddy I was playing with was laned against Gangplank and was pretty much getting owned, but I only vaguely knew Gangplank's abilities so I couldn't really help him on vent. So next game someone stole my Kassadin (I'll kill you!), so my buddy on vent said "Play that OP pirate guy" so I did. Now I never actually personally thought he was OP, I just knew he was pretty good - but as soon as I read his abilities I said "what the **** is this hero?!"

This was my first time ever playing Gangplank - I went 11-2 having no prior idea how to build/play him or even what his abilities did (not that it's hard to play him...whatsoever).

He has every tool you could ever possibly ask for all on one hero:
-Heal: check
-Get out of stuns/slows/holds (on a short cooldown): check
-AoE (massive AoE with global range) damage: check
-AoE (massive AoE with global range) slow: check
-Low mana cost single target low cooldown nuke: check
-Makes money faster than any other hero in the game: check
-Easy (possibly the easiest) to play: check
-AoE team buff: check
-Very high movement speed: check
-Passively poisonous attacks (with heal reduction debuff): check

Now supposedly he's supposed to have this flaw where he catches scurvy, but I didn't even notice that until about 35 minutes into the game. The scurvy was so negligible that I never once noticed I had it, and even when I did I still had no freaking clue what it did (because it didn't do anything to hinder me in any significant way).

This guy is like DotA's CM, Lich, and Sniper combined into one hero, and then given better health and movement speed - ie: what the **** were you thinking when you made him?

P.S. Please get better forum software so I don't have to go back and edit posts like this with 20 {br /}'s

 
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SlyGoat ?? Member
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09-28-2009

Gangplank is fine. Having something of everything is not really helpful. He's got almost no synergy. He's not astonishingly durable, does not have super fantastic DPS.

His ultimate needs to be replaced entirely, it can do 0 damage to a hero standing in it for the full duration or it can do 3,000 to an entire team, based entirely on a coin toss. That's about all though. Maybe just make raise morale an active ability without needing to kill a creep.

 
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Prisonal ?? Senior Member
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09-28-2009

Should say:

"This isn't a thread about me getting owned by Gangplank and whining about it; it's a thread about me and my friend getting owned by Gangplank and whining about it."

 
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AvariceX ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by SlyGoat View Post
Gangplank is fine. Having something of everything is not really helpful. He's got almost no synergy. He's not astonishingly durable, does not have super fantastic DPS.

His ultimate needs to be replaced entirely, it can do 0 damage to a hero standing in it for the full duration or it can do 3,000 to an entire team, based entirely on a coin toss. That's about all though. Maybe just make raise morale an active ability without needing to kill a creep.
Being able to nuke and slow an entire team from across the entire map during a push (either attacking or defending) is terrible synergy.

/sarcasm

And if you're Gangplank has bad DPS you're building him wrong - all of his abilities scream "buy a bunch of +atk dmg s*** for me". In the aforementioned game I was doing over 400 base damage by the end of the game. (Not to mention critting for over 300 with Parrrley around level 3-5 due to having +crit runes).

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Should say:

"This isn't a thread about me getting owned by Gangplank and whining about it; it's a thread about me and my friend getting owned by Gangplank and whining about it."
Spoken like a true troll who read only half of the first paragraph.

I don't whine about s***. If this hero stays in the game I'll just play him and 11-2 every game I play; I have no qualms with using a hero who is clearly OP, but this is a beta and I'm offering feedback so that the game can be properly balanced and maybe actually be good.

 
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Truhls ?? Senior Member
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09-28-2009

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Being able to nuke and slow an entire team from across the entire map during a push (either attacking or defending) is terrible synergy.

/sarcasm

And if you're Gangplank has bad DPS you're building him wrong - all of his abilities scream "buy a bunch of +atk dmg s*** for me". In the aforementioned game I was doing over 400 base damage by the end of the game. (Not to mention critting for over 300 with Parrrley around level 3-5 due to having +crit runes).

Spoken like a true troll who read only half of the first paragraph.

I don't whine about s***. If this hero stays in the game I'll just play him and 11-2 every game I play; I have no qualms with using a hero who is clearly OP, but this is a beta and I'm offering feedback so that the game can be properly balanced and maybe actually be good.
i cant wait till you play higher level games and get completely crushed as gangplank, i will seriously laugh all day long.

I still cant believe this guy is serious. or if he is trolling he def got me.

 
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Prisonal ?? Senior Member
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09-28-2009

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Originally Posted by AvariceX View Post
I don't whine about s***. If this hero stays in the game I'll just play him and 11-2 every game I play; I have no qualms with using a hero who is clearly OP, but this is a beta and I'm offering feedback so that the game can be properly balanced and maybe actually be good.
Too bad your feedback is clearly biased and has a foundational argument that is about as supportive as strawberry jello.

 
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GodlyDanny ?? Member
09-28-2009

What about FROZEN STrawberry Jello?

 
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Ponies Gonna Pwn Ponies Gonna Pwn's Avatar ?? Adjudicator
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09-28-2009

He can't really catch anyone on his own. His slow is too unreliable to be used in ganking against moving targets, and he has no other way to make up ground. He just runs away really well and can farm, even from across the map.

... so his job is farm and be strong from item dominance. He's pretty damn weak aside from Parrrley without items.

 
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Hutto ?? Junior Member
09-28-2009

He's missing some type of meaningful disable.

 
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Prisonal ?? Senior Member
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What about FROZEN STrawberry Jello?
Isn't Jello technically already frozen?