1. Casters are suppose to be very good Lv.1-12, after that if they havn't brought the game to a close or close to it ie. lots of kills or good pushing then that is when midgame (carries) and late game (tanks) are suppose to start dominating you.

I don't think the ratios on AP abilities should be raised cause already i have a hard time just gettin 150 to 160 MR by lv.16 in order to not be destroyed by good caster players.

2. Casters shouldn't be able to handle a tank late game, thats the slap in the face for not ending it earlier.

The main issues is Carries destroying tanks late game due to Magic Damage Abilities or Ap stacking

This is an absurd argument. Slap in the face for not ending it earlier? The game added AP as an attempt to avoid Dota's one way playstyle. The objective is to keep every team mate as useful as you can keep them during the duration of the game. That's why this was done. There are issues however reaching this objective.

Get out of a DotA mindset. Non-casters are not weak in the early game of LoL. Also, this isn't really a ranged vs melee discussion as ranged physical damage heroes do absurd damage late game too. It's a physical damage vs magic damage debate.

I don't think the answer is to increase caster damage late-game, the answer is to decrease physical damage. A fully itemized Yi can kill anyone in 2-5 seconds. That's just dumb.

a carry is not a viable argument, it isn't a desired outcome.

riot has already stated that the concept of carry is NOT A DESIRED OUTCOME. it is not a desired mechanic!

it's hard to avoid with differential leveling and item scaling, but it is not a desired outcome guys. this is one of the reasons why they're adding a new caster item in the upcoming patch that'll reduce a min 10% of an enemies HP per casting, to boost late-game caster damage regardless of carry.

There's no disable inducing caster items like in DotA so you are pretty much shafted if you're playing a caster without an inherent disable late game.

That's my only real problem with casters, item selection. Mana/regeneration items aren't choices, they're necessary. The only choice after that is if you want HP to not die or AP to not suck. AP item selection needs a boost since a lot of heroes can't really get much use out of rylai's, lich bane, abyssal scepter, so they're stuck with rod of ages, zhonyas and archangels.

Need more pure AP items for damage casters IMHO. Mejals is great but having more than one isn't viable.

Activated disables like DotA has would be a step towards making casters with no disables better picks, but... It'd also just make casters with disables better at disabling, and CC is way too prevalent already.









Also, casters being dominant early game is not a big deal in LoL at all, IMHO. You still need physical DPS to push towers, and your enemies' carries aren't going to be very hampered by your early game ganks because they don't lose gold for it and aren't out of their lane as long as in DotA. Not to mention, most carries (Yi, Jax, Ashe come to mind), have great skills for ganking as well.

They added in a new item that does 10% of their hp in damage when you cast a spell. Pretty sure that beats your hp problem. Casters basically have their own bloodrazors now

The bigger problem is not so much casters not pumping out enough damage, they can if they stack AP, and do become nasty dps all game with AP stacks. However, stacking AP does not help at all with their survival. There are plenty more items that give survival and damage than there are that give AP and survival--note that there are no armor + AP items, and only 2 high priced HP +AP items.

Survival items can come as early as a starting item for dps (lifesteal). Then they can get a phage for a cheap boost to hp and some damage. They can get a bit more advanced lifesteal item with mixed stats such as AS+lifesteal. They can get a nice item called Madred's Razor which gives them farming power, damage, and armor (also upgrades into a really really nice late game). Casters dont have anything like this sort of damage and survival except high priced items--you could say the glacial shroud is damage and survival since mana gives you damage, but really, it just lets you cast again, but doesnt help you when you need it if you arent a chain caster.