Originally Posted by lirm
If both teams have pure junglers I can't see how they'd keep up, seeing as there's so few mobs in the game and all the buff mobs are ridiculously hard to kill until your about level 8. Any by that I don't mean they can't be killed, I just mean you have to take the time to do it, instead of just a quick run through like the SR lizards/golems.
If there are two jungles you farm the jungle, counterjungle, or gank. Also the buffs aren't that hard to kill...Shyvana for example, can easily do the buffs or red buff at lvl 2 or 3 with smite. She can do her bot camp, top camp and as long as she didnt get doubles she can easily do one of the buffs. Other junglers can do it on their first back, and when they get vamp scepter its easy and they have enough hp to do more jungle or gank.
Originally Posted by Finrodelle
Actually, I've read your long explanation about some champs and thoses are the mosts enoing thing that have bother me:
Tier God :
God AP : Cassiopeia
AP Carry : Rumble
Cassiopeia in front of Rumble? As she is never bane, got no explanation about her place there (Because there isn't reason for such a thing...) I think she start from T5 from Vraell list to arrived Tgod here. Oo'
Morgana shield is considered very strong as it prevent cc... Olaf can't be cc so he can simply ran throw your entire team, bashing around freely, passing throw your tank with is true damage after killing your ap who can do nothing to counter him... Olaf is Tryndamere who can't be CC...
AP Carry : Lux
AD Carry : Nasus
Nasus: Top is almost impossible to beat. High burst damage, heavy debuffs and free life steal give him the chance to completly control and outclass almost any soloer. When he reach lvl 6 he can solo an entire team as the bot lane will still be lvl 4. The bigest slow of the game make sure one in each gank won't escape.
Lux: Can steal the dragon when staying in bot lane... Even when staying in the base XD (And she do it better then any other champs) She got a lots of CC and AoE. Slow block an entire lane and snare negate efficiency of 2/3 ennemy team... Moreover she cast all her spell throw wall and reveal all brush, TT is nothing else then a big flat uniform platform for her...
For the Cassio and rumble part: She is their because she is the highest DPS ap in the game and works well in TT against melees. She has an aoe slow, aoe that speeds her up, and her ult in TT is amazing. She wins her lane and can 1v2 if the enemy doesnt have a jungler for some reason. Rumble is still really good, imo he is god tier, but I am sure Sam has his reasons, so i respect that.
Olaf: Yeah I think Olaf should be higher too, I think Sam just hasn't looked at Olaf after his reappearance as a popular pick.
Nasus: No....He loses to Olaf, Rumble, any good AP in TT. He is meant to farm but can't do much if he can't farm against people that just zone him. Also any good team will have a jungler thus the bot won't be lvl 4... but also 6.
Lux: She is weak early, her cooldowns are too long, her mana costs are decently high. If I wanna beat you in lane I pick someone who needs farm and pushes well to make you use up your mana. And then when your jungler ganks I just dodged your skills shots. Her burst is extremely high yes and she does a lot of dmg, but she doesn't have the ability to kite after her initial spell cycle. She q's your guy and then I am pantheon I just jump on you and kill you. Her ult is amazing, but at lvl 6 she isnt gonna out damage a smite. Lvl 16 she does I think, but that can't be the reasoning. I think she is really fun to play on SR, but she needs a few changes to make her more viable there and in TT.