Originally Posted by Jazriel
Hello, and welcome what I hope to be the Official Character Discussion for Ashe, the Frost Archer.
I don't really care about what people think of Ashe, whether she's an "easy" hero or people don't like her. I like playing as her and I want to promote the growth of her competitive potential.
If you want a detailed source of information on Ashe, this site already has all the information you could need.
Without further ado;
My time playing Ashe has shown that she is very flexible in terms of skill and item builds. Recently I have been testing carry builds with a focus on having the entire early-game be about farming. Plentiful Bounty is taken at every possible level and Madred's Razor is the first item obtained. I've had very interesting success with this build. It makes last hitting very reliable, Plentiful Bounty far more useful, and combined with Smite allows some impressive gold acceleration in the early game. In the mid-game I've focused on ganks, defending lanes, and jungling. The gold bonuses from PB, Smite, and neutrals either makes up for the deficit of killing creeps, or adds to it since Volley is a solid farming skill.
My other build is a high damage build. I think Frozen Mallet is a 100% staple on Ashe, it's a joke seeing enemy heroes think they can simply run away and then realize they can't. I like to get Philosopher's Stone first and then boots. Then I go straight for Phage, Boots of Swiftness, and then Frozen Mallet. However I have been finding that Last Whisper is extremely good, both on its own and on Ashe.
In terms of gameplay, I have yet to see an Ashe who plays better than I do. I'm no pro at LoL but I find people don't understand how to use Volley or Frost Shot. Volley's best late-game application is its huge AoE slow. Since I don't know if Volley applies Last Whisper's penetration or other item-based effects, I don't really aim to do damage with it late-game. As for Frost Shot, I've found that people's assessment of its application in the early game is retarded. A 40% slow was the baseline for useful in DotA and level 5 Frost Shot having 35% slow is barely acceptable. (Hency why I'm trying a PB-early build and consider Frozen Mallet the most important item she can have).
Volley's use endgame is if you build properly it hits fairly hard and applies a slow even when they're a bit out of range. It's also a great way to burst a bit of damage (hit->ult->volley is a big chunk)
Frost shot is amazingly useful, you'll easily be able to chase down a target on it's own and if you're not alone then your teammates can easily run up and beat it to a pulp.
my usual build at the end ends up being this
Regrowth Pendant (initial item)
Boots of Swiftness/Zerker Greaves/Merc Treads (depending on the other team)
If it's still going, stack phantom dancers.
Originally Posted by EmptyApartment
thanks for the post Jazriel, im a relatively new LoL player and so far like using Ashe so i try and read as much as possible on her. I am no means a pro but ive read others people thoughts on how Plentiful Bounty doesnt add up enough until later levels so taking it early is not such a great idea, thoughts on that?
PB is completely useless. Don't get it until you have to. (ie FS/Volley maxed) It doesn't even add up to a lot at later levels either, but you have to start putting points into it because they don't want you running around with a level 10 volley or something :P
Originally Posted by Scathain
Why would you get a Frozen Mallet when you have frost arrow? why spend all that gold for a slow, 775 hp and 20 dmg, when you can get a high damage item and still have a slow?
Before they used to stack, I don't know if Items+Skills stack anymore, as they made it so different items slow's don't anymore (Ryjal's+Mallet for instance)
The main reason now(if they don't stack) is it is the only item that gives both damage and survivability.