Just wanted to say, I totally called the AP Nid T1 like 10 pages ago or something.

I've been playing a bit of Orianna bot, and not doing too bad.Great waveclear and long range poke means you can use the minions to neutralise the tower and poke the enemy to stop them from restarting.

From what I've seen they're planning to hit her cougar defensive stats, so not really considering everyone's been whining about walking over traps and into spears. (To be fair, her penetration is ridiculous, but still).

I like seeing Nidalees. Grab Irelia with some CDR and an Odyn's, go play whack-a-kitty.

At this point I think you can probably remove some of the alt builds. AD TF, AP Trist, and AP Corki are basically always much worse than the 'standard' build for them top or bot. I don't think I've even seen a Corki, TF, and Trist with any build in a while.

heimer cheesecake tier

Lux tier 3? That should be higher, Lux dominates in dominion if you build her right. I just took 3 people on a point...I cant even do that with jax anymore.

Fizz in t3 for bot? Lol. There are very few champs that I don't win bot against with fizz. If his ult didn't target the ground 50% of the time instead of champs I'd put him close to the top of t1 for bot champs.

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