Originally Posted by Astraltar
So let's put your logic up against someone like Veigar:
-Veigar summons a mile-wide black hole centered around Jax.
-Jax tries to leap-strike out and fails spectacularly.
-Veigar puts Teemo down as his next target.
Your logic is bad and you should feel bad.
You're assuming that Veigar's cartoon-villain status wouldn't come around to foil him there, too. (Not saying Jax can beat a black hole, cause he can't, but it's VEIGAR we're talking about here.) Yes, Veigar is super powerful, but what has he done? Tried to steal a precious yordle landmark with balloons and horseshoes
and... Has he actually done anything else? I doubt Veigar could do something as simple as sticking someone in a black hole without messing it up somehow. It's his nature, and as a character he's meant to be the "villain" that we all get a good laugh out of.
Here's what I would imagine happening given Veigar's insane wannabe villain nature:
-Veigar traps Jax in his magical black hole, or whatever the Tiny Master of Evil happens to feel like using at the moment.
-Instead of just killing him, Veigar is so taken with the fact that he's actually winning for once that he starts to villainously monologue right on the spot with Jax as his literally-captive audience.
-Veigar takes so long with his monologue that Teemo finds him and decides to shoot him with as many darts as possible while his back is turned.
-Veigar passes out from the poison on Teemo's darts and the spell is lifted, releasing Jax.
I'll believe that Veigar can be competent as a villain when I see it. So far he's done nothing for the most part and when he actually did
do something that might be worth-while he bungled it by making it so ridiculous that it was bound to be foiled somehow. If he's the master of space and gravity why didn't he just make the Mothership itself lighter, and then just tow it away like a balloon and kill everyone present with a black hole? Why didn't he just kill everyone anyway when he was making his escape when he actually tried to steal the Mothership?
And why hasn't he used his powers to land large meteorites on the city-states that he's so eager to "bring to their knees"?
I doubt he'd even be smart or non-crazy enough to trap Jax in a black hole, he'd probably use something goofy like magic tar or whatever instead of going straight to the big stuff like he aught to. All his power, which I do believe he has a lot of, is basically worthless if he can't use it right. Nasus, Malzahar, Cho'Gath, Anivia, etc. are all able to utilize their power to the fullest and will likely do so if the need arises. Even Renekton does better despite his insanity because he's actually seen as a threat and will actually kill you
if given the chance. And he will enjoy it. Immensely.
In the way of power level
, as in how much raw power he possesses, yeah I would rank Veigar pretty high. But as far as the ability to use it given what his intent is supposed to be? He's pretty much a non-factor unless you want something to laugh at when comparing him to the champions who can actually use their power to its maximum effect. If Veigar were somehow able to become un-crazy and shed his cartoon-villain status then yes, I believe he could
become the ruler of Valoran, if not the universe(no guarantee with our other powerful contenders/defenders but he would be able to compete with his abilities). But as he is now? No, he's not a legitimate threat and he is nowhere near using his powers to their fullest. I wonder if those dark wizards who tutored Veigar are either shaking their heads in disappointment or laughing cause they knew he'd be such great entertainment.