Obvious Troll is Obvious.

No one ever complains about stealth as a general mechanic.

That or... you just blow.

My counter to stealth is to get more HP and MR. Starting off with a potion and Chalice is usually a good idea. Stealth champs have good burst, but they will die first if they stand toe to toe with you. Therefore having full HP (hence, potion) means you will outlast the initial burst.

Stealthers aren't too bad during mid game. Early game, they can be really dangerous 2v1. If you know there is a stealther nearby, call in reinforcement. Seriously--they have a really good initiator, and can take you down easily. They can't do it if there are 2 of you, unless they are willing to lose 1 member in the process.
Secondly, lane toward the middle of the map. If they are setting up for an ambush, chances are the non-stealther needs to be in the bush. Laning away from the 2nd champ makes it much harder to attack you, unless they are willing to take damage from creeps--which is a big deal at level 1.
Third, if your champ is just bad against stealth, ask for lane switch. There is no shame in it. Some champs are just better equipped for it. For example, try to stealth into Alistair, and he's going to Ground Slam the **** out of you.

During late game, just hope your team's disabler is quick enough to save you.

avoid death by stealth character:

1. Stick to your buddy, and i mean really stick to them. In my experience, in mid game if you are Ashe and 3-4 sec walking distance away from ally, you are dead to me.

2. After you 1st core item, get a elixir or ask a strong survival teammate to get it. If assassin characters don't get 10+ kills during mid-game it's pretty gg for them. A elixir or two will limit their options to kill.

3. Jungle is dangerous if playing against good stealth, they'll find you and call friends = 4v1 gank on you

4. Half hp should not keep farming or get out of tower range, 70% hp for mid-late game, especially ALONE.

5. Basically play cautiously, don't present yourself as a open target, unless you baiting.

For 450 gold I think the detect range on the oracle is terrible, but otherwise the stealth metagame is fine.

As I'm playing Twitch a lot now, here are some tips:

-DON'T SOLO AGAINST TWITCH: You do NOT want to solo a lane where you know there's a Twitch. Always have backup.
-DON'T TAKE BAITS: The game starts. You go to a lane with your buddy, scout the bush, and find a lone champ sitting there. DO NOT FOLLOW. I've had early kills like this. The scouting guy tries to tie up the champ AKA bait, I unstealth and attack, Exhaust, use a pot, use heal to keep us both alive. If you see a Twitch in loading ASSUME HE'S IN YOUR LANE, specially if you can't see him.
-BEWARE OF 3v2 and 3v1: Another "neat" tactic. Twitch goes to a lane with two other people, but he's stealthed. Two champs meet two champs, they engage, Surprise! Twitch was also there. 1-2 kills, and Twitch returns to his lane. This is extra bad if there are two stealthers in a team. That solo guy? He probably has company. Also, don't assume because the map showed Twitch on a lane that he stayed there. What he can do is show himself in a lane, go stealthed to another lane, and gank up on you.
-STAY AWAY FROM THE GRASS: Usually you want to control the grass. But if you are facing Twitch without being able to see invisible, YOU CAN'T. So don't try.
-CALL M(issing)I(n)A(ction): If you see Twitch missing for too long (more than 10 seconds), or he goes off in an odd direction, or you get a bad feeling, tell your team. Something short, like "rat MIA top". It may be a false alarm, but you may also save your teammates. If Twitch goes off to try to gank, but everyone is playing defensively and he can't, he just wasted time. Also, you may want to call "rat back" when you see him again, so people can go back to being aggressive. This may spam the chat a bit, but it's worth it.
-FOLLOW THE CHAT: If Twitch is not in your lane, keep an eye on the chat. Ask people to call MIA on rat. If they call MIA, ASSUME HE'S AFTER YOU. If you are solo, low on life, or whatever, HUG THAT TOWER. Hug is NOT the same as "stand some distance behind it". It's HUG. Give it some love.
-BUY HEALTH POTIONS: Something you should ALWAYS do anyhow. Get your starting item, and a pot. If you are around 60% health use it ASAP. Do NOT wait till you are past half health. Used the potion already? BUY MORE.
-CAREFUL JUNGLING: You are playing Warwick or whatever, and jungling. They call the rat is MIA? no-one sees him again? Go to a lane. You do NOT want to be weakened fighting neutrals when the rat finds you.

If you are 2v2 in a lane and your partner is bad, well, it doesn't matter if the other guys are stealth or not, you are in trouble. "My lane partner is newb" is no reason to think stealth is overpowered.

It's easy to stay pretty close to your tower, get all the XP, and most or even all of the money you'd get if pushing hard. No, you won't take down the enemy tower this way. That's fine. You DON'T need to fall behind in XP or gold when doing this. Don't attack unless it's going to generate you gold. Don't pointlessly volley to damage an enemy creep wave! This just pulls you away from the safety of your tower, which doesn't help if you don't think you can safely pressure the enemy tower (i.e. the whole reason you'd want to push forward).

Don't discount this possibility. It works.


I never start off with a ward vs. a single enemy stealther. I might against a teem of Twitch, Evelyn, Shaco, Teemo. =D

You seem to assume you have wait for 1000 gold (or along time) before pilling back. It's just not true, especially if you have Teleport. No, it may not be ideally "efficient". Neither is dying to Twitch. It turns out sometimes you should change how you play against different enemies.

If you put down even a single ward, enemy stealthers have to change how they play, and they usually don't know exactly where the ward is or if you have put down another one, because wards also have stealth. One ward can absolutely cover the entire area you intend to fight in. Place it so the edge of the ward is at the edge of your own towers range. Don't push past the edge of the ward! You suggest you need 3 wards to cover "the area you are fighting in". You are fighting wherever you CHOOSE to fight. Fight at the ward! You never need more than 1 in a lane during the early stages of the game. If you decide to leave the safety of the ward, you better have a good reason. (If you are doing well and pushing, sometimes I'll put the ward up near the enemy tower, because I expect to do most of my fighting there. This assumes you won't get pushed back, which is sometimes true.)

Your complaints about them not lasting long enough or being expensive just don't hold up in my experience. I often get a kill on Twitch/Evelyn if I place a ward and they don't see me do it, which more than pays for the cost of the ward.

The cooldown on Teleport is 5 minutes (some of which is shopping, etc.), wards 3 minutes. You can easily keep a ward up for most of the time you are there if you feel it's necessary (and the enemy generally doesn't know exactly when they are gone, either.) And obviously you can buy multiple wards in one trip. Apparently you don't feel it's worth it somehow, but frankly, if it keeps you from dying, it's worth it! Perhaps you'll have less free cash to play with when against stealthers. Deal with it!

Sometimes this is right. More often you just want to make sure you aren't fighting 1v2 where one of them is a stealther.

Yes, of course! Frankly, at the level I play at (which isn't top tier or anything), people would look at you funny for not just doing this. Heck, it's wrong to run around with low health against many non-stealthers.

If you don't have an item that gives more health regen, including health potions, you are probably "playing wrong" vs. stealthers. It's foolish to run around far from your tower below 50% health when you KNOW there are enemy stealthers around. That's asking to get ganked.


OK, so, um, Heimer is one of the best characters vs. stealth (Twitch's ultimate notwithstanding). Heim should be pushing turrets ever farther forward. If an enemy wants to attack YOU within range of 2+ of Heimer's turrets, you should just attack back and win the battle (because you didn't start that fight with low health, right?). This is one of the weirdest examples I've ever heard because it's one of the best situations for Ashe to be in.

Don't range far from Heimer's turrets. Conserve your mana and don't volley too much if that will push you too far forward. Heimer needs to keep creeping towers forward (which often means he needs to conserver his own mana as well so he can keep rebuilding them).

When you can, make sure your volley is hitting the stealther (won't be stealthed ALL the time). Keeping the enemy relatively low on health compared to you (easy for Ashe to do) will make them NOT want to ambush you, as you will have a much higher chance of winning the fight. If you have 90% health and Twitch has 50% health, you have nothing to worry about unless you are getting ganged up on (in which case you should ask for help!) Even then, you've got decent odds of killing Twitch and getting a 1-for-1 out of it (which isn't a goal but better than just dying). Ashe is one of the best characters for staying above enemy health (non-tank).

Your initial buy must include some kind of health regen, which is usually a good idea anyway. Regrowth Pendant is fine on Ashe, or something smaller and 2+ health potions. If you don't like health pots, you are probably playing wrong.

If you get to 50% or less health, play very conservatively until you are healthy again (like 80% health or higher). This shouldn't take extremely long with your health regen. If you are out of pots, don't have another health regen item, and are pretty hurt, just pill. If you are too hurt to be in the thick of the fight and that won't change soon, you should go home. Get some shopping done, potentially buy 1-2 wards or more health potions, and you're good to go.

When I have 60% health, I start playing more cautiously. Some of this is experience and knowing how much damage can be done do you by the enemies you are near, but you basically want to be healthy all the time. I've certainly consumed health potions with at 60-70% health sometimes, just to almost top myself off. (I wouldn't do this if I had a Regrowth Pendant or something like that.)