Originally Posted by Morello
The seed interactions are brand new. You can't "hatch" things out of placables in another MOBA, and you certainly can't choose which spell hatches which plant minion.
You may or may not like Zyra, but she is new and fresh, objectively.
Well... from my point of view, Yorick does a very similar thing and so do Heimerdinger... Basically, hatching plants is exactly the same as creating towers except it requires 2 clicks, it also serves the exact same purpose as ghouls, being an added damage/utility to the initial burst.
The only point I would see that "hatching" procedure really unique would be if the seeds weren't so useless by themselves... They really can't be used for much more than brush checks right now and can't be dropped for long-term gains, meaning that all they really are is an added DPS to your Q/E burst... So basically, it's not that I don't like Zyra, it's more that I find her seed a little disappointing. Also there isn't really any situations where I would like to raise my W first... If you scaled the duration of seeds with the W level, that would be a whole other matter. Then again, I think that the real reason i'm disappointed is that she's probably the only champ that doesn't have 4 abilities... All champs would be OP if by level 5 they could have maxed any of their skills. I don't see a level 5 Zyra with level 5 W a threat to anyone in my team no matter what her role is...
So basically, W makes her kit seems worse than she really is... Even though I understand that there had to be a mechanism to drop the seeds, I find that Zyra having only 3 real abilities kinda sad...
EDIT : Just to make sure that point was clear, Since there is now a hard cap to the number of seeds you can lay-out at once, I don't see any problem to raising their lifespan. Actually, if the W raised the seed cap (like 2/3/3/4/4 on you and 3/3/4/4/5 on the ground), it would actually gives an incentive to leveling up W (Do I want stronger burst/DPS or more seeds/plants). If it raised the lifespan it would also helps it feel like an actual ability (30s is too low for a ward, you lose half of its time placing it and going back to lane)
~edited many times to make sure it actually reflected what I thought... but should
be done editing now...
P.s. Don't take this personal, I actually really love both your work and Zyra... It's just that I feel like LoL's best point is his champions and I really feel like this one isn't perfect... The only other time I felt that way is Darius' nerf... but that is another matter for another wall of text one day... Brace yourself CertainlyT, I'm coming (one day, for now you've got Zyra's tweak way over your head... and btw gj keeping up with PBE's flow of reports...)