Originally Posted by Pastoulio
1. No, it's the nature of multiplayer online games, and the internet in general. I was not talking about the insulated tribunal, where apparently you think everyone is guilty by default. And no, the majority of players DO end up in the tribunal at some point or another.
2. So if I feel like ignoring you right now, then you're causing me a negative experience?
3. So? People get reported all the time, for literally any reason a disgruntled player can come up with. What YOU propose is punishing people over benign reports just because they may have said something punishable in one game. If only one of their games has something reportable in it, THEN A SINGLE DATA POINT DOES NOT INDICATE A TREND.
4. Why not just get over it? You're advocating something that could lead to the banning of someone's account, which robs them of their time and money invested in the game. Just how petty and vindictive ARE you? A "justice" system is supposed to consider the rights of the accused too.
5. Okay? If anything, the system needs to be more lenient, with additional warnings before temp-bans, and incidents should be cleared after being pardoned. You should also have the opportunity to speak on your own behalf, but whatever, you'd probably be against that too.
6. Apparently you're not mature enough to discuss things rationally without being condescending.
7. Being in the tribunal is a question of "when," not "if."
1. SUMMONER PLEASE WHO U THINK U TALKING TO?
Here is a piece of research that I trust more than your claim.
Quoted from Lyte (Riot staff): "For the vast majority of our players, they will never, ever show up in the Tribunal so I don't think it's a system that should be feared."
Lyte works with the design of Tribunal so he knows his stuff.
2. If you're muting out of spite rather than escape, it's hardly forced.
3. People do get reported all the time, but the majority of players don't get reported enough to trigger Tribunal cases. A punishable incident is still a punishable incident no matter how much you try to butter it up.
A single incident does not indicate a trend, however a single incident does not trigger a case being formed. A single incident shown on a case is merely a sample of the stack that triggered the case out of the most recent incidents within X days. A trend is what creates the case, not the other way around.
4. The rights of the accused are always considered because verdicts in Tribunal are manually reviewed, not automated. Riot Support is always available in rare cases of false punishes, and the code of behavior which everyone agreed to when signing up for the game is readily accessible with the simple click of a link.
It's not a ban for the first punishment, and if the punishment was unjust, then the punished player can have his/her record reset to pre-warning by contacting Riot Support. I recommend posting the reform card link for feedback on forums before doing that otherwise one could get remembered in future audits for wasting Support's time with a legitimately punished case.
5. Incidents are already purged from Tribunal on a Pardon. Repeat cases are the result of reported incidents from after the purged case. (records are however kept for considerations of permanent suspensions by Riot staff later on)
Reform cards showing the punished cases are mailed along with punishments to give a chance of figuring out what went wrong. We have forums and Riot Support to discuss the cases that have been punished so there's plenty of opportunity to speak on one's own behalf.
6. It wouldn't seem condescending if you counted yourself among the possible millions that I mentioned.
7. Being in the tribunal is a question of "when," not "if" for players who can't follow The Summoner's Code.