Originally Posted by Farm all Night
What do you do vs lee sin and udyr? udyr will kill you if he finds you and lee sin can start anywhere, making it a pain to counterjungle him.
Lee is really simple to deal with.
You can figure out where he starts from where mid lane enters the lane. proceed to go other buff, and take it. Snowball off of that.
it's also pretty typical for them to level 2 gank top with red.
Udyr is just about staying even with him, while ganking more. You can't get ahead of him, but if you somehow do, it should be an easy win.