Originally Posted by Ayrona

Well, as was pointed out in the first post, one of the reasons why they do not have more customers (specifically women) is the portrayal of women as a whole with respect to men. I have to agree with this because I have not successfully convinced other women that I know personally who enjoy games to play this game, and this really saddens me. I also understand where they are coming from because I almost didn't play this game because of it, but mostly because I wasn't sure if I could take the game seriously with the *** appeal thrown right in my face. I realized once I started actually playing that it was just a small cosmetic aspect of the game, and one that I could also enjoy (I own Officer Caitlyn and Bewitching Nidalee as far as sexy skins go).

Also, the goal of this thread is to see more diversity in the future design of champions and skins. I would argue that since League of Legends has over 100 champions, the push for more diversity is favorable from a design standpoint because there is more of a need for champions to be distinct from one another than when there were 50 champions. This goal certainly does not interfere with appealing to the majority.

Originally Posted by Whiteglint3

women aren't in combat situations for very, very good reasons.

the main, and mostly only reason is this.

women put into combat situations cause incredible problems when injured in the line of duty, nearly ALWAYS the men combatants instinctively do everything they can to help them, this is bad because if say.

1, female combatant is shot by a sniper, everyone is behind cover, normally the correct procedure is to use coverfire to protect said injured, find the sniper and route him, then apply care to the injured soldier.

when females are put in place, the men will break cover to protect/help her, they will then all be killed, combat effectiveness is instantly lowered to nothing (because they are dead).

this same event happens in other situations, the men WILL do whatever it takes to help the women, its instinct, and it kicks in hard in combat, and it has gotten men killed many times (and the women involved).


women are entirely capable of being in combat, they can kill people just as good as men (infact they are very good fighter pilots and helicopter pilots, and is the main combat role the get to take)

but women should not be put into ground forces combat, they disrupt combat effectiveness and get people killed due to situations I discribed.

so.. knowing this, women are treated diffrently in the army, do you think what I said was sexist? (if you do that means you think progression is more imporant than soldiers lives).

I await your answer, i'm sure your mature enough to give a good one (ha).

Originally Posted by Waafu

So when male combatants act in undisciplined and stupid ways for no good reason, it's the women who are "disrupting combat effectiveness"?

Originally Posted by Waafu

So when male combatants act in undisciplined and stupid ways for no good reason, it's the women who are "disrupting combat effectiveness"?

Originally Posted by SonsofaBastages

This is true. The Israelis have used women in combat roles and ran into this issue. Men in the area are more willing to compromise mission objectives to protect a wounded female squadmate than they are to protect a wounded male squadmate.

The argument "well they shouldn't do that" hasn't done much to counter the problem. So women are generally excluded from combat roles where that type of situation could come up. Women are in Aircraft combat roles, and the four star in charge of Air Force Materiel Command - Gen Wolfenbarger - is a woman. So even if there are some combat restrictions there's not much of a glass ceiling currently in the military.

Originally Posted by clappersucks

While it may seem sexist, it is true. It has always been known that female interactions with males in a military environment can be bad for everyone. Not necessarily for the specific example the poster used, but it is true. It is just the way humans are.

Originally Posted by Whiteglint3

my "specific" example got 6 people killed FYI.

Originally Posted by Whiteglint3

my "specific" example got 6 people killed FYI.