Originally Posted by Stark Midnight

MathMage that outfit is ugly as hell, if your going to suggest better female armor at least do a better job of it. For example the new victorious Janna skin is a skin thats not revealing yet is extremely well made. To be blunt a skin has to be either bad ass or look good to sell, not fugly as all hell.

Originally Posted by MathMage

Let me just point out that Irelia's armor, which exposes everything from the chest up, is still primarily a costume. We accept it because we don't get access to anything better--like, say, this:

http://mikeypetrov.deviantart.com/art/Magic-5-329582704


That there's anatomical realism, and then there's fantastic imagery...and then there's outright ridiculousness.

Originally Posted by MathMage

I was speaking purely in terms of realism. If we want prettier armor that's still realistic, I have plenty of examples of that too, such as:

http://anndr.deviantart.com/art/Captain-317072827

Originally Posted by Whiteglint3

that armor is essentially what Riven is.

and the entire concept Ezreal also looks alot like (and ezreal is so feminine as to be genderless)... so we DO have that.

Originally Posted by Whiteglint3

this game cannot afford to have everyone in realistic armor, literally, as much as I love realistic armor (its why Elite Knight armor in Dark souls is my favorite video game armor of all time) and love this idea, the general populous would RIOT if everyone was in knight armor and doublets and surcoats.

Originally Posted by MathMage

That much is plain, since you STILL think my shtick is just to dress every champion in plate, when really my shtick is really much more like that old fan fix to Sona's splash art that was exactly the same except it moved the fabric line on her chest up about three inches.

My fix to Fiora would not be to dress her in plate. It would be to have her in a serious fencing pose.

My fix to Akali would not be to dress her in plate. It would be to have her garment go all the way around her body.

My fix to MF would not be to dress her in plate. It would be to give her realistic body proportions to go along with her substantial endowment and a posture that doesn't hurt her spine.

My fix to Leona...might be to dress her in more substantial armor, like what happened with Iron Solari Leona, but you can see how this is not a solution that I would apply in every situation, because plate armor is often just as unsuitable for the champion as complete nudity.

I find it frankly pathetic that you can still misrepresent my position like that after two hundred pages of discussion, after I have emphasized over and over and OVER again that I am not opposed to attractive female champions, or even sexy female champions given the appropriate lore, or even fanservice skins like Battle Bunny Riven in their specialized place.

It shows that you don't actually care what I think, only that I disagree with you. From there you turn on the blinders and automatically assume I'm radically opposed to everything that's reasonable, because after all, if you aren't standing for all that's reasonable, that might mean you're wrong, right?

Originally Posted by IronStylus

Welp, you'll see it when we release it. I also am pretty sure I know that I know female champions don't have to be "sexy". "Sexy" is actually the worst generalization you can throw around because of all the vast opinions on what is so. My version of sexy is probably a far cry from yours. Please don't generalize or assume to know my preferences. I have a feeling you have no idea what I think.

Originally Posted by MathMage

Are you serious? You're not ****ting me, are you?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Alyx_Vance.png
http://ryodita.deviantart.com/art/Astrid-251942878
http://dinmoney.deviantart.com/art/B...Monk-299759743
http://michalivan.deviantart.com/art...hard-330318305
http://mikeypetrov.deviantart.com/art/Magic-5-329582704
http://ironshod.deviantart.com/art/T...ssin-329102484
http://elsevilla.deviantart.com/art/Bar-Fight-322827615
http://anndr.deviantart.com/art/Captain-317072827
http://sakimichan.deviantart.com/art/Sato-317040134 (I have my own issues with the pose but it's still a good example)
http://jasonengle.deviantart.com/art...cker-310461369

There's plenty more where those came from.

Originally Posted by MathMage

Also, Whiteglint3, I KNOW you saw this post because you posted all around it, and it's OBVIOUS from the post that I'm not talking plate armor for everyone, so kindly put a sock in it.