You have inspired me to play Shaco. We'll see how this goes.

Very nice

I'm starting up a stream atm!

I know it's really early, but how're you liking Shaco on the new TT? Any of the new items look nice on him?

Also, 3's route/build in general?

I started playing Shaco after I read this post. Borrowed your builds and read your posts on ganking.
Working out super fine up till now, soloing dragon at level 6 ASAP and stuff.

Plus I like Shaco's play style.

Great guide again! Was wondering if i want to make Shaco's two shiv poison skill really strong, is it ability power or attack power i need to upgrade it?

Sorry for the mega late responses [I haven't had power for a week and I am back at school now]. I dislke Shaco a lot on the new TT to be honest. Level 1 invasion is a must if you are versing a Shaco (Hes really terrible at level 1 fights) and most people pick strong junglers (shyvana for example) that wave-clear fast and are naturally tankier. Shaco has a hard time doing his own jungle (since the enemies should put pressure at level 1 + on) and snowballing is a lot less prevalent in this new TT. For example, if I camped top lane in the old TT I could be level 6 and the enemy might only be level 3-4.

Now I feel as if no matter how much I gank those respawn timers are so short they miss no creeps/exp and most level 6 top laners vsing a level 6 shaco even with a slight item advantage will win. The experience and level gap part of snowballing on the old TT made Shaco's ganks worthwhile and powerful; on the new TT gold scaling is really the only "snowball" factor as everyone pretty much levels at around the same pace regardless of deaths which hurts shaco a lot (ontop of ****ty level 1).


Good to hear! Let me know if you find something that works better for you and I'll try it out ^^ Experimenting is always good.

2-Shiv poison scales off of Bonus AD (I'm pretty sure its bonus AD) and Ability Power. So to make it stronger build more front-up AD (Bloodthirster/IE/Brutalizer for example).

I'm going to stream!

Could you put up like, a collection of your responses (like, have your build, skill sequence, ganking tips, everything of value) posted to the OP (or make a mobafire/solomid guide.... I would love if you did that)

Also, specific mutations to your build in really weird circumstances (all ad, all ap, all tanky teams)

How do you fight a Lee Sin that invades?

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I can definitely find some good posts and requote them in the front. And after my finals are over I can try to get a guide up and running.

LeeSin is annoying at best, but if hes invading you you should have exhaust + deceive. Make him burn his double Q quickly [if he misses, no sweat] and you will get away fine.