I don't bother to challenge you because you are so close-minded. Oh, and everyone is a pothead if they smoked it once I suppose.

Hell yes.


Is there any other way to wake up? Would you find it more acceptable for someone to wake up and be Emo about life?

Confidence and energy will get you further than apathy and self-pity.

Sigh, you know I can't really argue when you are using logic.

I agree that it would be excellent if they could find the appropriate method to utilize marijuana, that is, a method that the medical community would agree on. Who knows, maybe it'll be the new penicillin one day /shrug


No, that's not even remotely close to what I was saying. My point was/is; the Medical use of Marijuana is extremely controversial for a reason.

I'm not going to lie and say I know the debate inside and out, I don't, I admit it; but what I do know is that ... cocaine based products for example, come from a substance commonly believed to be "Pure Evil" , yet they're used every day all over the world for many fields of medicine.


I can prove that Cocaine is good.
You and others cannot prove the same for Marijuana.


I'd be very surprised if you could find a single death caused by the controlled application of Alcohol, Cocaine or Nicotine based products in the field of medicine.

I'm not a doctor, but I associate closely with many and what you're describing just doesn't happen, at least not outside of incredibly strenuous circumstances.

Flattery will get you everywhere <3

But no, I don't call people "Some dumb pothead" unless they earn it. You seem to speak with a strong voice with obvious thought put into your words, even if you disagree with me, why would I talk down to you? that would be nonsense.

People who respond with :
"DUHHH YOU B STUPID, HEMP FTW MOTHA ****A LOLOLL"
"Dude, like, weed rules, its all good, no side effects or nuthin"
"I'm an intelligent person and I believe pot is harmless and increases my quality of life"


... are the ones I mock.

For example:



/Facepalm

Yes, not a single death caused by the controlled application of any of those substances. That isn't really saying much. I'm pretty sure that the argument for no deaths from marijuana falls under the category of uncontrolled application.

And what did you face palm over? The fact that I was certifying my degree of FIRST HAND experience with the chemicals which you so generously applaud?

I'm actually not sure if you even deserve a response right now, because I posted a fairly in-depth post, of which you have not debated any of the points I bring up. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

A pretty decent response, althought I have one qualm about something you mentioned. (And apparently I edited my post after you already replied to it lol)

That's where your wrong. Or mistaken.

You can prove that Cocaine is used commonly in medicine. Sure.
However it is unreasonable to do the same for marijuana when it has had no chance to be researched medicinally before it was outlawed.

The proof you seek hasn't yet been researched to the same extent cocaine has, and thus it is unreasonable to expect definitive proof of its medicinal properties.

But, speaking from personal experience, I can prove Marijuana is good and has beneficial attributes for myself, and a few close others. (It might be worth it to re-read my edited post)

Also, no chemical is inherently "evil". It may have a strong stigma attached to it, but that should have no barring on whether or not it should/could be used medicinally.

Im not a doctor myself. But I am currently studying Pharmacy at my local college before I head up and go for a Pharm.D.

These cats all be gaming.

You cannot be serious, while it's true that Medicinal Marijuana is a relatively new concept for humanity, it has had millions of dollars in research in the U.S. and comparable amounts of currency have been spent in other countries as well.

It has and still is being researched to a ludicrous degree.

Conversely, Cocaine has been used for many years without requiring anywhere near as much funding or research.

Cocaine:
(I believe) Freud used Cocaine for various medical reasons as early as 1885.

I'm not 100% versed in the history, but I believe from his humble use of the drug, many of the modern day applications were derived. Again, this was done without the then equivalent of millions of dollars of funding and research.


My comparison is still valid. Since the majority of the studies performed are inconclusive and therefore, unintentionally prove my point.

Which is why I said "believed to be"? O_o

Nice.

Maybe you'll make it big someday and put an end to this kind of debate.

What?? Medicinal Marijuana is a relatively new concept to humanity? Since when?

A quick google search of "Medicinal Marijuana history" points to a Time magazine article which, among other things, says -

You can read the whole article at http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101021104/history.html

So where the hell did you get the idea that "medicinal marijuana is a relatively new concept"? If anything, the concept seems to be as old as civilization itself.

Conversely, the medicinal use of Cocaine is actually a rather recent phenomenon. See this link http://www.google.com/search?q=histo...ed=0CFEQ5wIwCg .

I think you are rather misinformed on many topics of which you feel you know something about. HINT: Just because you hang around doctors, doesn't mean you are a doctor. I'm not sure if you understand that, so I'll put it in a way you might. Hanging around black people doesn't make you black.

EDIT: You just got ****ing served. Moron.

This is the kind of garbage that I usually mock.

Let me disarm your extremely poor argument with a question:
Did you know people used to use copper wires in the ancient times to hold together pieces of metal(Gold/etc) to replace teeth?

WHOA, THAT'S TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS WHAT THEY DO TODAY IN PROSTHETIC DENTISTRY.

Oh wait...

There is a massive difference between:



"Something happened in the past where people used it".
and
"This is commonly accepted medical practice".



Cocaine was presented by (Someone correct me if I'm wrong?) Freud and this lead to the medical community embracing the drug as a tool, leading to cocaine products/laws/etc/etc. This is not the same as some guy somewhere chewing coca leaves to relieve gum pains.

How can you possibly be confused by this?
Too much pot probably...

What you're doing is , you're trying to pass off misinformation, or at least a gross exaggeration / misinterpretation of facts as some kind of evidence that "Refutes" my earlier claims.


You know, I think there's a term for that... oh yeah
A STRAWMAN ARGUMENT


gg pothead. Good job googling information and completely failing at interpreting it.

Hrm, seems like i hit a nerve or something, because you actually responded to my least interesting post (IMO.) And before you go off saying things about misinterpretation, etc, I would just like to say I'm not exactly sure what you're touting off about medicinal cocaine for so strongly about (Which is why I provide you with the reality that - hanging out with doctors does not make you one). It has been used medicinally (and accepted as such) as a local anesthetic, but that's about it. And there are better, non-addictive alternatives to cocaine for that purpose - Which brings me to my original point, which you STILL have refused to respond to me about -

The withdrawal syndromes associated with all of the drugs you mentioned, vs the extremely mild, if not nonexistant withdrawal syndrome of marijuana. Especially, I would like to know your opinion on the medical use of Marijuana as a pain reliever, in opposition to the more commonly prescribed opiates (Morphine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc.) which (as most people know) have an extremely strong potential for psychological as well as physical addiction.

Or is cocaine the only thing you feel like talking about?

Also, I wouldn't suggest that you start accusing other people of logical fallacies, when you are quite guilty of some heinous errors in thought yourself.