GJ revamping that much needed newer design of TT riot!

Read somewhere in this thread that TT is being replaced by these so called "Shadow Isles".

What?

No, seriously, what? Potential for a new map under the guise of "Shadow Isles" and you go and "revamp" an old map clearly by the name of Twisted Treeline, even in the headline, and yet, someone said that the SI is replacing TT.

Who's great idea was that? There are many other sections on the map that are completely devoid of any maps/potential, yet you go back, fine-tune TT and then decide to go and rename it the Shadow Isles because of the theme you gave it.


Where's the clarrification here, aye? Is Twisted Treeline being replaced by this "Shadow Isles" thing, and will we be getting a new TT map to compensate? Because if so, what the hell is the point in hyping SI and then revamping TT... :|


Potential for something amazing suddenly went down the drain just to give something a fresh coat of paint that will be dead anyways unless the overhaul is justified by the gameplay...

...normal draft mode? s'il vous play?

There is still the fact that there are only three maps total. Why not just make it a separate map? Then you can keep the lore, the die-hard Twisted Treeline fan-base, and have a new kick-ass map I can be completely excited for.

Also, some of the "broken" things in Twisted Treeline are just viable (albeit often annoying) strategies for the map, and I don't say this because I'm a hardcore Twisted Treeline fan, I actually don't play it much.

But if it were a new map, players could choose to never play Twisted Treeline again, and avoid the "broken" mechanics, while people who have spent years mastering the map can stay there. Move ranked Twisted Treeline to Shadow Isles if you think it's unbalanced.
It just seems like this new map cannot be a completely good thing if it removes such a classic map when it could just be added separately.

Lastly, please think carefully about changing Summoners Rift. People have spent a lot of time getting to know it, and you don't want to alienate them. Remember you can make a new 5v5 map that addresses problems you see, and it doesn't have to be significantly different. As I said for Twisted Treeline, make the changes you see fit to balance the map, then have it support ranked, while leaving the old version(s) for the non-ranked modes if you want a limited number of ranked maps. Also sorry about the giant post, I've just been a LOL'er since it came out and I care about it.

For the Void!

So you decided to showcase the new Twisted Treeline WITHOUT Maokai present? What gives?

There is a post I lost in this thread asking if both Twisted Treeline's could still be in game, has that been talked about over at riot? I pretty much started on this map back when it was in Customs. To lose this version of the map would truly be a shame. I understand that it's buggy and broken to some players minds but there should be no reason to trash the second version of TT. I know the first was terribly unbalanced with all the brush placement but that was one of the more enjoyable things about TT not being able to see anyone at all. A lot of my friends and I cried when TT went live and was changed to how it is. Now again we will lose another version where we have had so many memories?

Is there a way to keep the current version of the map in game say maybe back in customs instead of throwing it away?

Do you ALWAYS call him Maoki?

RIP Grez

Will future balance changes continue to revolve around 5v5, or will 3v3 take a more primary role with this new/reworked map?