Priority: Major

Labels: Elise Blackfire torch No Damage burn

Occurrence rate: 100%

Description: I read That blackfire torch is supposed to proc on spells (the same spells as rylais) when ever you cast Elise's E (in human form) there will be no proc on minions or players etc. Idk if this is intended but per the text it should proc.

Repro steps:
1. Start a custom game.
2. Pick Elise and any combination of runes, spells and masteries involving AP.
3. Get blackfire torch and Use E in human form.

I have noticed this...and it saddens me

I honestly think it's because it does no damage.

Besides, they need to probably make sure Blackfire Torch can't stack with brands passive. Lil' bit broken atm.

Correct. The current functionality mirrors Rylai's, which means that it goes through a certain chain of logic to apply.

Deal damage --> Not Turret --> Spells/AoE Spells/DoTs

People are overreacting with that item. Saw someone make a topic that a teemo made him from 100% to 40% with 1 melee lol. The item itself does 5% dmg over 3 secs. And it's not true dmg.

When you rush it, on early champions (say you have a fight and brand walks out with all 3 kills and no one else dies with both shrines) it doesn't help much. It is broken when it fizzles 7% of your hp over 4 seconds.

Blaze:

Brand's spells light his targets ablaze, dealing 2% of their maximum health as magic damage per second for 4 seconds, for a total of 8%


Which also adds to the already 8% of blackfire torch fizzle. =/

Imo, this is specifically with brand though. I like the item in general, but early on it just rolls face with brand having it.

Over 4 seconds, with 1 ability, his passive and the torch will deal 13% of the target's max hp over 4 seconds. It's a lot, but it ain't broken. Put into context exactly how much damage that is against the average target. at 2000 hp (not unexpected of another mage) it will deal 100 damage over 3 seconds. Oh my...! Such a large amount of damage. *cough*

Now against hp heavy targets, for which this item is intended, it deals more damage. And that's okay because that's what it is for.

This item isn't any more powerful on Brand than any other mage. Brand deals damage just like any other mage. His % health passive doesn't necessarily make him hit harder against the average target, just better against tanky champions. But not by much.

Deal damage being the keyword there I wasn't sure just something I noticed and thought I would bring it to your attention

What?

Let me help you out.

13% of 2000.
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2000 * .13 = 260
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Or broken down further 1% of 2000 = 20


EDIT: I think you meant just the torch item, though you aren't really clear about the separation there in your example. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though.