just fix the turtling and keep the old map.

Riot is just helping out the 99% of the community Cookie. I see what your trying to say like most of he veterans of TT, but there is no changing it now. Move on and just start thinking in the future how to make shadow isles a more competitiveness, fun experience.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...2700767&page=1 didn't know 99% didn't want TT.

That's alittle over 100 ppl, over millions of players in the community o.o

Oh thanks , now i know TT wouldn't split the community at all then. 30 million total. 26 million on sr "just making up #s" 1 million on dom and 3 million on TT. Shadow isles comes out as the new Normal and Ranked map. Cool . 500,000 - 1,500,000 go to shadow isles. Keep original TT as a normal map only. Still have 1,500,000 to work with, queue time? still 30 seconds to a minute. Not seeing the problem.

Old Twisted Treeline had basically two chokepoints you needed to ward to avoid early game ganks. There wasn't a lot of diversity in ward positioning. That being said, I am sort of disappointed that they simplified the map

They actually made it so junglers get more advantages to gank and be more useful. In TT, you either lose jungle hard or win jungle hard. Rarely see close quarters,close match ups with junglers. Just because of the snowball effect. I feel having junglers around the center would cause more blood bath/fights which is what TT is based upon, quick,high rewards, team fights.

Sam, it's still in beta, they CAN change things.

So many things they're saying are flat out wrong, while yes some champs were too good this is an incredibly heavy handed solution that keeps nothing good about the old map.

"applying what we learned from dominion"? Seriously?

They need to get in threads like this and discuss the balance of the new map and what about it even slightly resembles the old map. The only threads rjcombo and nome have posted in are item threads and "ooo what a pretty map threads".


--A Platinum TT Anivia main.

And what has Dominion taught us about quick early fights? Tankydps win every time. The lack of any laning phase removes as many champions as the changes enable.

Sam, I understand moving on, but Riot asked for honest feedback so I've provided it. If enough people resent the change, maybe it won't get changed If it does change, I'll organize the first tournament.

You can help the clash of the clans 3v3 tournament. Saw a post a couple days ago about it. Seemed pretty cool, even though the prizes are weak, but i do like to see a TT tournament.