Meddler post: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...55102#30655102

Like i said, just wait it out. Things are changing.

TLDR flat or % penetration are going to be nerfed on their own and nerf tripen or void/whisper only builds to prevent stacking of both from being OP.

Build diversity, gotchya Riot.

Also, wut, how can the current values be designed around this current order when those values were created when the reversed order was in place?

They intend to nerf tanky dps with this change however that will not work because values closer to zero give higher dps returns. Here is an example.

50 pen +50% vs 100 armour - Old = 25, new = zero
50 pen +50% vs 200 armour - Old = 75, new = 50

In this case it is a buff to tanky dps, nerf to everything else. However.

100 pen +50% vs 100 armour - old = zero, new = zero
100 pen +50% vs 200 armour - old = 50, new = zero

It is a nerf to tanky dps in situations where true damage was being dealt in the first place. But do we really want to nerf tanky dps by having everyone do true damage to everything? It'd rather they just nerf lifesteal so champions can't get 1/2 their hp back from a crit.

Shred comps incoming.

I still dont understand why? So our typical AP champ building 1 armor is gonna be stupid now or??

Hmm, so what Meddler said makes me think that either they will nerf the numbers on the items (30% shred LW/Void anyone?) or else they will make flat and % pens unstackable or something else.

I'm rather worried, but I guess I can only wait and see.

They're going to change a lot. Items, this, masteries. Best just see it all when it arrives together. I'm sure it'll take a while to digest.

Kha'Zix will only need LW and Brutalizer and he will destroy everything