Originally Posted by canuckboss
When they had voyboy is when they brought out the cheese cus that change was bad , but even then they are better than any na team other than tsm. Crs is the only team that might take that spot too if they get their act together. People just like to bash , you never see dig orb mme or any other team get called out for losing etc but clg has been one of the most successful teams and right now have one of the most talented rosters out there. anyone who says otherwise ignores facts
I disagree. Hotshot hasn't shown to be a versatile top laner that can win games by himself like shy or maknoon etc. Jiji isn't as strong of a mid laner as many of the teams in the world championships. Heck, I would say he would be in the bottom quarter of mid laners that showed up at L.A. live. Chauster is unproven in the jungle, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Doublelift is probably on par with Chaox, and they are both worse then the best AD carries from TPA and Azubu Frost. Locodoco is a top tier AD carry but unproven at support.
Simply put, if you do a case by case analysis of each laner and their relative skill to other laners on the teams that showed up in the world championships, they simply aren't talented at all. In NA, they are second best, and the best NA team is probably 5-8 (5 being generous and 8 being more realistic) in terms of team seeding on the world scale.