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Katarina vs Malzahar

 
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Aeziir ?? Member
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01-31-2013

Malz's ult is a clear counter to Kat's ult, so the outcome there is obvious. Laning phase, a smart kat is not going to try to actually kill a malz when he has any considerable amount of health, especially not with her ult. Her ult will NEVER do its full damage, unless the Malz is mentally deficient or his R key has been removed.

In the end, it will go to whoever is able to poke best, and a smart Kat wins that one. Everyone is comparing Malz's minion jumping ability to Kat's but the problem is that Kat can see Malz's coming from miles away while Kat's hits all its targets within a second. She will poke more with her knife and Malz won't be able to stop her from shunpo + spin to break the knife seal. His silence is fairly easy to dodge and his pool is a no-brainer. A good Kat can harass and get some minion kills at the same time without taking much damage from Malz. Unfortunately most Kat players are not good, they're greedy.

To finish Malz off after poking, I bring exhaust and flash when I play Kat rather than ignite for these very reasons: once Malz is low from poking (and IF I'm still high hp from dodging his pokes), combo, shunpo in, exhaust, and ult him. He has a choice: die from your ult or do 70% damage with his ult (or flash out, which everyone can do...). After poking correctly for a while, you should be able to survive the 70% ult and hopefully take out his remaining health with knife and spin which will be off cooldown once his ult is over.

I guess my conclusion would be this: a smart Malz vs a smart Kat will probly be a standoff, but a successful strategy from Kat could give her a kill or two. A failed strategy will give them to Malz. Malz is the bully and he NEEDS Kat to initiate to shut down her ult, so it's all on Kat's shoulders whether she outsmarts him.

 
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Oz SammyD X ?? Senior Member
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01-31-2013

This isn't even a fair battle, Malz wins everytime, Kat littery won't be able to do anything to Malz, Malz has better poke/harras, if Kat ults Malz stops it with his ult and if she doesn't ult then she is dead because Malz combo kills 100% of the time unless you built him wrong(once i saw a Malz with frozen heart and thornmail, noob was mad cause he was so squishy, they were his first 2 items -.-).

Malz counters Kat in every way, not possible for Kat to win.

 
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RadiantPyrophore ?? Senior Member
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01-31-2013

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Originally Posted by Zaurok View Post
Kat buys a QSS and there goes Mal's ult.

At that point it can go either way. If Kat can land some good harass she will eventually be able to kill him. If she gets ahead in kills she will eventually feed off of him. On the other hand, Mal won't be able to kill her as long as she has her QSS up (and isn't low).
Malz buys Zhonyas and there goes Kat's ult. At that point, Malz wins no matter what.

 
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Originally Posted by Eninya View Post
Quicksilver Sash.

Kat never gets 100-0'd in lane, and she can free farm when she finally out scales him in raw damage. Just don't get silenced.

The only thing Malz has on Kat is the ability to farm safely.
Malz's ult still does damage after QSS and his single target damage is still an order of magnitude higher than Kat's, while Kat is still sitting in all his ****storm trying to kill him.

Failkat is fail.

 
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AoGMana ?? Junior Member
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01-31-2013

I would say that any good Malz would beat a good Katarina, the suppress is just to strong if used correctly. I supposed if you got ahead on kat you could win the trades and all ins. But in and even 1v1 matchup without any advantages to either person, Malz should almost always win.

 
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Skaliton ?? Senior Member
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Katarina shunpo-es when Malzahar drops his combo. Katarina presses R after the supression.

Fin.

in what world is malz going to be the aggressive force here? he can farm easily and push down towers..kat needs to kill him

 
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RadiantPyrophore ?? Senior Member
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From a high skilled standpoint, the only true counter in there is Fiddlesticks. You can outplay a Malzahar and Diana with a lot of finesse, but Fiddlesticks's kit just breaks Kat in half unless she's fed.

You won't often face an Alistar in ranked, but I'm speaking from the idea that this is all for mid lane.
They all break her in half assuming halfway similar levels of skill.

 
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Aroph ?? Senior Member
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01-31-2013

Galio.

 
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Cungfuzi ?? Junior Member
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04-22-2013

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Originally Posted by CerealBoxOfDoom View Post
beat him as ahri many times
bad player, not weak champ