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lockrider ?? Senior Member
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11-04-2012

King of the overly sensitive homos vomits forth more worthless information in an attempt to bias Tribunal voters towards spamming Punish, news at 11.

Seriously though, if you hit punish for even half of the things on that list then you should seriously considering killing yourself in real life. When people say things like "Every life is precious," they're not talking about you.


Ridiculous comments from someone who had no concept for following rules or understanding others. Omega, awesome post. Love it.


So you`re saying the next time I see the news of someone getting stabbed multiple times I can blame League of Legends because of Garen? The fake world said it`s ok to stab people, and if someone gets so locked into the fake world that it becomes their real world, their interpertation of reality will be twisted, and they may be able to completely justify using a sword in "our" reality.

When you kill me in the game, does that not make me suffer?


You're mixing your reality with virtual world here. The idea is that something said on a game evokes real emotions and could impact the person in real life. Ie, someone being called a loser constantly online could make them begin self-harming because they feel it's true. However, someone using Garen then deciding to stab someone for no reason is not realistic -- unless it's a 5 year old with no parental supervision, who doesn't understand the difference.


A few F words ain`t gonna bother anybody.. Have you been to an elementary school lately? Ten year olds are cussing each other out...
Yes, 10 year olds do cuss each other out, however they are also taught when not to say it and abide by that. Ever notice that obnoxious 8 year old swearing in the playground who sudden quits using the F word around their parents to avoid punishment? As adults playing this game (ie, anybody over the age of 16, with a built-in self control system), we too have this ability and should control our language when it's used towards other players to put them down. If you want to say "f..., that turret tagged me a bit soon," or "s..t, I missed," nobody is complaining. It's the comments directed at people which are frowned upon.


If you kill me ten times in a game why are you not a jerk? Everytime you kill me, I have to sit through a long timer to think about how much I suck, only to respawn for you to kill me again... So you are making my gaming experience horrible by picking me out because I`m behind in levels and gold..

You sound negative. When you're dead, think about the exchange. What happened? Did an ult overpower him so you couldn't win. If so, how could you counteract it next time? Did another lane's champ assist him? Maybe warding is an option. This game isn't about "I suck" or "you suck", it's about tactics and using them at the best times. Some characters counter others and it's nobody's fault. For example, commonly banned characters in Draft: Blitz, Malphite, Shen. Simple fact is they are powerful and their cc's can be difficult to overcome. Ever tried to call an mia on a Shen in time when his ult is being used?

 
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JohnnyOmega ?? Senior Member
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11-04-2012

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Originally Posted by Burger Flipp3er View Post
Look man, I`m gonna leave it at that for now... All I`m saying is calm down a little bit, every cuss word doesn`t need a punish, everytime someone lashes out, you don`t need to hit the punish button.. I`ve never been banned, and I probably won`t be, I don`t rage, or cuss people out, I just happen to enjoy a bit of testosterone spilling out during a close game.. A few F words ain`t gonna bother anybody.. Have you been to an elementary school lately? Ten year olds are cussing each other out... I think you takin this a bit too far sometimes.. I`m not saying nobody should be banned, I`m not taking up for that idiot (ban me I said idiot.. THATS TOXIC!) player that just quits and feeds, but I am taking up for the players that have some fire in them, the people that want to win, and sometimes do get upset.....
Did you even read the list?

The more common, non-homophobic "F" word isn't even on the list because it is not used as a direct insult most of the time. Spamming it and excessive verbal abuse against a player using it will get you punished but that's not something we see nearly as often as the other things on the list.

Calling a player an idiot at the moment is a worse problem than saying "f*** you" because people more often use "idiot" in a provocative context rather than a defensive context.

This could change in the future but at the moment that's how it seems to be.

Also, using racial and homophobic slurs is not just "cussing". It's the verbal dehumanization of people based on how they look/live, which is never okay.

 
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11-04-2012

Added #23 to the list after seeing it in a Tribunal case.


23. Threatening to kill players (in real life). [Negative Attitude] - This can actually lead to a real life jail sentence depending on where you live. Death threats are taken seriously by law enforcement even if you do not.

 
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11-04-2012

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Originally Posted by JohnnyOmega View Post

"We should weigh the pardonable incidents against the punishable incidents on a case." - FALSE.

We are being asked to find a punishable incident so that we can send the player a warning about the behavior in that incident. This way the player can use his/her reform card from the case after being punished to ask about what he/she did wrong, and assuming he/she doesn't ignore the community's feedback the punished player will be able to avoid repeating such behavior in the future. Here's a thread with more detail on this. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2585243


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...ght=first+case

yup see my thread. The guy was clearly punishable in the second case and other players defend it by going well his other cases was pardonable -.-

 
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JohnnyOmega ?? Senior Member
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11-06-2012

Bump to collect more feedback.

 
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11-06-2012

Bump to collect more feedback.

 
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11-06-2012

great list should be stickied even if you do not agree with all of it.

 
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JohnnyOmega ?? Senior Member
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11-06-2012

Added #24 to the list.

24. Lying about Tribunal and/or the policies regarding punishment. [Negative Attitude] - Try to be certain of the context when judging this one. Sometimes people are just misinformed. Misinforming others on purpose can lead to others committing acts of toxic behavior.

Here are a couple of examples of what is punishable:
"I'm a member of Tribunal Elite. I can't be banned but I can ban you so you do what I say or else." (There has never been a Tribunal Elite program)
"You can't get punished for saying [racial slurs]." (one very much can and will get punished for using hate language)

 
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JohnnyOmega ?? Senior Member
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11-06-2012

If anyone sees something in their Tribunal reviews that can be applied here please share.

 
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JohnnyOmega ?? Senior Member
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11-07-2012

Some posts expressing confusion about a player's suspension in this thread. There would be less confusion with a more detailed list of what the community finds unacceptable. Hence the purpose of gathering feedback from the community.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2774536