Originally Posted by Isist

Your post, sir, needs a TL;DR version.

But my point is, have you ever seen a rank 2000+ rioter?

Originally Posted by TeamWorkTom

Tribunal is not the solution.

People do the MID OR FEED stuff because they "main" roles. No one should ever "main" roles in this game.

You can have your best roles but then you should be good at all roles to better understand how each role is played so you can counter play it.

The Tribunal also does nothing but get people paranoid about bans and creates a community fearful of communicating.

If you teach people how to play its a start on how to get the community focused on improving their own play as well as their team play.

Originally Posted by TeamWorkTom

They don't need to get 2000+

1700 would be good enough to teach people basic concepts like CSing, when to and when not to tower dive.

Originally Posted by Neferit

Eh...I don't think so.

In this game, one team has to lose. It doesn't matter just how tiny the mistake was that lead to this, "toxic" players will rage over it. These players will always blame their own mistakes on others. They never accept that they were simply outplayed by a better team. They always think their own team is the worst of all.

In addition, toxic behaviour is also abundant in high elo, where "good players" are. How come? If playing good would reduce toxicity, very high elo games should be nearly void of it. But that's far, far from the case.

Toxic behaviour is a complex matter. Most rage/verbal abuse/offensive language problems are due to "caring too much" - people who don't care as much about the outcome of the game are much, MUCH less likely to rage or insult their teammates. Intentional feeding usually happens because these people simply are ******bags or are out for revenge. So called "trollpicking" usually happens because people hate certain roles their team wants them to play or out of revenge.

If you want to fight toxicity effectively, you need to address the roots of the respective toxic behaviour. And that's kinda hard for certain kinds of toxic behaviour. In fact, I'd deem it borderline impossible.

But first and foremost, I deem a "global training" inefficient against literally any kind of toxic behaviour.

Originally Posted by TeamWorkTom

Then teach the community how to play the game.

By giving people basic and advanced videos and information about the game players will be less likely to complain about others skill when they are clearly doing something bad and can simply respond with a comment from the video.

Example when a tank at full HP at say level 7 or 8 tries to tower dive someone at low HP with no ult by him self.
There is absolutely nothing safe about it and with a little kiting will end up the person feeding a free kill.

Another example would be to tell people the importance of CSing, that 20 CS is about the same as a kill and its not worth running around chasing someone for 3 or 4 mins and having the chance of being counter ganked.

By sending the person back you have effectively done something good. The player now has to waste time going back heal and loses XP and CS.

Many people focus on kills instead of objectives and CSing. ARTS or MOBAS in general have a high learning cap. Most "common" knowledge for more dedicated players is not common knowledge for the majority of the player base.

For instance. Your in mid or top. You die. Instead of hanging back and focusing on safe play because you are behind in gold and xp, the average player goes right back into fighting them likes its Street Fighter where the game is twitch reflex based.

But in LoL that is not the case. Skill in LoL is more than handling your character. Its knowing match ups. Its knowing when to engage. Its knowing when you farm and when to fight. Its more knowledge based than actual mechanical skill.

So because this game is more knowledge based I really think Riot should start teaching the community how to play the game on a basic level, and if they wanted to encourage pros to teach the community at a competitive level.

I am not saying Riot knows best, but they are better than the average person simply because they created the game. They test and figure out most aspects of the game because not only do they make it they enjoy playing the game.

Maybe this sounds crazy but its pretty common for players not to understand that when they are behind they need to catch the other team at mistakes and play safer.

The community is toxic because its free and easy to play yet the general community does not understand how to actually play the game.

TL: DR version

Riot needs to teach their player base how to play the game even if its just the basics to help curb the toxic player base.

Ex: 20 cs = 1 kill.
Ex2: Play safe and farm when at a disadvantage and force the other team to make mistakes.

Originally Posted by krimsonKasper

Phreak and Solcrushed are both plat / diamond.

Originally Posted by Neferit

Eh...I don't think so.

In this game, one team has to lose. It doesn't matter just how tiny the mistake was that lead to this, "toxic" players will rage over it. These players will always blame their own mistakes on others. They never accept that they were simply outplayed by a better team. They always think their own team is the worst of all.

In addition, toxic behaviour is also abundant in high elo, where "good players" are. How come? If playing good would reduce toxicity, very high elo games should be nearly void of it. But that's far, far from the case.

Toxic behaviour is a complex matter. Most rage/verbal abuse/offensive language problems are due to "caring too much" - people who don't care as much about the outcome of the game are much, MUCH less likely to rage or insult their teammates. Intentional feeding usually happens because these people simply are ******bags or are out for revenge. So called "trollpicking" usually happens because people hate certain roles their team wants them to play or out of revenge.

If you want to fight toxicity effectively, you need to address the roots of the respective toxic behaviour. And that's kinda hard for certain kinds of toxic behaviour. In fact, I'd deem it borderline impossible.

But first and foremost, I deem a "global training" inefficient against literally any kind of toxic behaviour.

Originally Posted by krimsonKasper

Phreak and Solcrushed are both plat / diamond.