Where will items like Thornmail, and Sunfirecape add to stopping the power of AD Carries? Will new items be introduced to reduce their effectiveness?

Thanks!

excited! thanks for keeping things fresh and interesting!

Okay, so first off the news that % and flat armor penetration will begin stacking in a more beneficial way is something that I think is really awesome and I find to be quite exciting, however it seems like that will leave armor shredding abilities/items in a very bad spot.

Take for example a 60 Armor target. You have Last Whisper, Van Damn's Pillager, and are Olaf at level 18. This grants you 40% armor penetration as well as a flat 55 penetration. This means something needs around 90 armor to not be taking true damage from everything you do.

If you were build a Black Cleaver (Yes I get that I am proposing a pretty silly item build just for the sake of my query.) to help shred the armor of some of the tankier targets, will the shred on-hit be completely lost on targets that have enough armor to not be reduced below 0 armor but also low enough armor that your champs armor penetration bypasses all of their armor without it?

Full AoE Build Ryze go

Now, now is the time to wait.

what items are being removed? whats is being chaged, what is being added

Are you adding any more active items? Will their be any extra armor pen, spell pen, LS, or SV items? Will new boots be added and some of the lesser used boots be revamped like boots of swiftness? I love how in depth you go with your reasons and arguments so I'd like to know what you think about why you may or may not add anymore of the types of items I've stated above.

Any thoughts on a level one (walk out of base with) stacking item?

i am really excited to see what you guys have come up with and relearn the builds for my champions.

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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2772076