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Xypherous Xypherous's Avatar ?? Technical Designer
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11-07-2012

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Are you worried about Renekton at all with this new Black Cleaver? His E already has an armor shred mechanic, and how he get's even more of it. I guess people really can't counter him with armor anymore.
Renekton's 'E' lasts 4 seconds. He typically can't kill you within that time.

However, you should probably run away if Renekton is partnered with like.. a carry - because yeah, the two of them working in concert will destroy your armor and then murder you.

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So is it intended that Kayle can cause 36.35% armor Shred with this, her passive and Righteous Fury active to the entire enemy team?
Righteous Fury is magical splash damage I believe.

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11-07-2012

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Probably - but if your character has linear scaling and 100% physical damage - that's just going to be what happens. That's my own fault as Riven's designer that she gets hard-countered by armor.

Morello has to talk about very high-level of what is good for the game as a whole. Individual designs don't contradict that, it just means that the individual designs are flawed in that regard.
Additionally, I didn't say that as strongly - I heavily favor soft-counter approaches, not that we use zero hard counters.

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11-07-2012

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What's so hard to understand? It does physical damage, it procs BC. That simple.
What's so hard to understand? The fact that the BC shred is an on hit effect and the skill rather clearly says that the bounces do not apply on hit effects.

Thanks for trying to sound like a badass though.

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11-07-2012

I expect a nerf on The Black Cleaver after about a month.

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11-07-2012

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However, it does give you an opportunity if you are skirmishing these types of heavy bruiser men. Getting multiple Rakes/Kha'zix W's off in a pre-fight skirmish will greatly enhance your burst combo.
Rake CD = 10 sec
debuff/shred duration = 6 sec

how I'm suppose to do multiple Rakes and maintain debuff stacks with skill that have so long cd and without going into melee range to auto attack and getting exposed to CC and burst from tanky bruiser? (and no I'm not gona build 40% cdr on talon >.>)

Imho the shred debuff should at least stay for 8-9 seconds

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11-07-2012

This sounds great! With all the work on armor penetration items to help itemize AD casters, what about other underserved classes, notably hybrids? Will there be any new hybrid penetration items being introduced?

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11-07-2012

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What's so hard to understand? The fact that the BC shred is an on hit effect and the skill rather clearly says that the bounces do not apply on hit effects.

Thanks for trying to sound like a badass though.
Derp. BC isn't an on hit effect anymore. It's an On Hit and On Spell effect (as long as it's physical). So, is the damage physical?

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11-07-2012

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Additionally, I didn't say that as strongly - I heavily favor soft-counter approaches, not that we use zero hard counters.
I guess I just misunderstood what I read from you earlier. Thank you for the clarification!

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What kind of items can we expect for AD casters?
Cant say till release I think

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Satarrus ?? Senior Member
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11-07-2012

On the subject of new items and armor penetration, do you intend to add armor pen boots? Boot choice has always been somewhat of a problem for AD Casters, with Ninja Tabi/Merc threads not feeling very suited to the role and Ionian boots being the only other real choice but very situational.

Please answer this Xyph, EVERYONE NEEDS GOOD SHOES! :<

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