Riot why do you have to do this. Jungling is fine how it is.

These changes sound pretty stupid honestly. You're going to make the jungle minions hit harder so that ganking junglers have lower health? That just makes the currently strong junglers even stronger because the weaker clearers will have lower health and worse/less frequent ganks. Improving items to compensate for that? How is that going to change anything? Why buff damage and buff items together? Isn't that going to cancel out?

The best junglers are the ones that have the best ganks and good clear speeds, lee sin is 1 such example. His health is going to be high because he has a shield, life steal, and good aoe and single target damage. Master Yi's heal is garbage and people won't even put points into it. Now Yi is going to take more damage and won't clear any faster. Both champions will benefit from the items, except that they probably aren't first choice items. If you're still starting with a cloth armor, then all you've done is nerf the worse junglers.

The third set of changes seem good, but I don't see how there will be more diversity at all. If anything, it's going to go back to being Warwick, Nunu, Fiddle dominated because of the sustain, or else stay the same.

omg dont change it, so many people will quit if it fails, its fine as it is... nubs GG

So, you've touched on Shaco some, but does this make him a champion worth picking over others, or just someone who you could pick?

Good **** riot.

Statikk, thank you guys so much. You don't even know how close I was to quitting playing top lane all together because of constantly getting lvl 2 ganked and then camped for the rest of the game. I was sick of it beyond belief. This seems to be a great solution. I can't thank you guys enough! You gave me back my "skill island" that top lane used to be and took it away from whoever has the more active junglier wins.

(The indirect buff to Trundle that he desperately needed is just an added bonus. Used to be one of my favorites, I hope he gets a bit better after the changes.)

Wouldnt the whole "Attacking nearest target" thing make leashing more difficult? If you're planning to force junglers to get buffs later, this also gives an unfair advantage to characters like, say, Mundo, who don't need a buff to jungle, and make junglers like Fiddlesticks and Amumu unplayable in the jungle?

Also, reducing the value of the wraiths is also kinda ridiculous for a jungler. Junglers tend to be behind in gold anyways unless they go for a bunch of gold per 10s.