Originally Posted by Dennis Rodmang
Perhaps you missed out on the fact that the BLACK CLEAVER also does buttloads of dmg and mitigates w/e little armour u had to begin with. Sure, stack HP, do no dmg and get melted by the CDR and +50 attack dmg. Not to mention that same guy also is now stacking HP as well cuz his black cleaver comes with it built in. Grats on ur warmogs though, enjoy dying in 2 hits still.
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Get with the times kid. There's a reason there's 100+ posts daily about "Black Cleaver OP".
The personal insults and harassment aside, allow me some sarcasm. "Oooooooh, 50 AD! That's gonna tear through my 4000, 5000, 7000 hit points. And I get to build hp faster than you can build cleavers, cause warmogs is much cheaper than even one of them. What's that? Warmogs doesn't do damage? I guess you've never seen Atma's Impaler. Suddenly 5000 hit points gives me 150-200 AD, with a 15% chance to double that. I wonder what Infinity Edge would do on top of that. 40% chance to hit for 500 AD? you have no armor or hit points? I think you're the one getting 3-shotted. But you know what's better than Infinity Atmogs on a tank? Infinity Atmogs on Dr. Mundo . . . Or Sion. Is that doable every game? Every game the enemy builds 25-30 cleavers it is. Why are there "100+ posts daily about 'Black Cleaver OP'"? Maybe because too few people have bothered to look at what's actually happening, and been creative about how to handle it.
Of course, someone who hasn't given much thought to what can happen might say, "what about Liandry's?" And that's actually a fair question, if you've never heard of Spirit Visage (because mpen doesn't benefit item procs, and regen hard-counters DoTs). Or someone might say, "what about the carry stacking IEs?" Also a fair question, in which case it's important to note that 4 cleavers only shreds 30% of your armor. While the 4-cleaver noob may get 100% penetration, the penetration-less carry only gets the 30% shred, so build an Omen: 500 hp hard-counters the 4-cleaver noob, and the remaining 50 armor reduces the carry's damage by 30% more. Of course, his runes and masteries might get him another 20 armor pen, so you're left with 30 more armor that cuts his damage down by only 25%. But that's not all! Because Omen reduces the carry's AS by 20%, so his damage is actually cut by 30%. So if 100 armor (post shred), 3% damage reduction, 20% AS reduction, for a total of 60%+ damage reduction against the only damage dealer on the enemy team
isn't enough for you, grab a Frozen Heart, Iceborn Gauntlet, or Thornmail, for another 40 - 70 armor (after shred) and lots of other cool stuff too! But the best part? We've only used 3-4 item slots, which leaves us 1 slot for the obligatory boots, and one slot for something fun, like a Deathcap, IE, or Atma's of our own.
So please, think about these things and don't follow a cookie-cutter build; your victorious teammates will thank you. Or you can play Vlad, the right way, and show them all what "OP" really means.
P.S. Apologies that the overly sarcastic post seems necessary.