Thought: Olaf, perhaps? Cuts through my armor and has better sustain as far as I can tell.
Edit: How to counter Eve: three tanks. -.- Alternatively, Alistar with a phage is a firm counter. Can't just kill him so he'll stop dry humping me, and I can't do anything about his CC.
Also, ADC Eve is firmly insane. Out with the Triforce, in with Infinity Edge -> Entropy. Throw in a Shroud and Vamp Scepter in between and I'm set.
Originally Posted by Volandum
Makes sense those would have a bit of trouble getting out (actually Fiora can run away very fast after her E, I've caught up to Yis with it), as they have access to gap closers for going in.
The point with my suggestion is that IE is cheaper than 3force and more damaging here, phage is all you really want (you can finish it very late). It also synergises nicely with atma's.
Hrm. That is
a good point. I can't even really make a case for mana because I rush FH second, but it just takes so ungodly long to finish compared to picking up components of TF every base/death.
Originally Posted by Orphane
You exhaust and turn around and kill her? I mean, that's what 99% of bruisers should be doing.
I usually either disengage with W or QSS it off and keep going.
Originally Posted by A12MO12
An ad eve? Malph likes this, so does amumu, jayce, darius, khazix, kassadin, urgot , jax and several others i can't remember
Magic damage, QSS, win trade, QSS & hold my ult for his, win trade, win trade, Urgot wins everything, W the phage proc and kite him during counterstrike, repeat as often as necessary.
The only one of those that's going to be a real pain in the ass is Malphite guarding a carry and I'm enough of a threat to be the prime target. I can QSS Urgot and run in a team situation. Now, if Jax is fed
then I'm going to have a problem if someone propped him up to free sustain level, but so does everyone. I think the point is missed if it takes cheesecake to beat her; that's just shoving her on their level.
Originally Posted by HaIfhearted
To be fair, AD Eve has a considerable AS steroid and a refreshable massive movespeed steroid that removes slows.
Her kit is arguably better than Yi's when it comes to building AD.
I dunno what to tell you.
Melee AD carries are pretty damn strong at low-mid elo ranges, and Eve has the steroids to match the best of them.
Like A12MO12 said, the best counters are things like Malphite that can reduce attackspeed, or just the generic "hard cc + focus-fire" or exhaust.
Ninja Tabi + Thornmail would also be quite effective at combating her.
So, what, do I just have to keep winning until I get out of low-mid Elo? I'm getting bored most of the time except for the rare close games, and half of those are resulting because the other team is made of cheese and they just scale up to compete with me late-game.
My response to Thornmail is Wit's End. Counters the damage return nicely and provides a source that it won't hit; if I've got gold to burn I'll just skip that and go Abyssal if I've already got a negatron sitting in my inventory. A dedicated tank with FH/Rand might give me problems, though, since I can't really do anything about that.
Originally Posted by Elalya
AD Eve has really bad uptime on her steroids. Kite/cc until they wear off, then turn around and beat her up.
The only disengage I've really had a problem with is Kassadin because I can't W to catch up to him; either I had to use it to catch up to him after a jump or he's silenced me and I can't use it anyway.
Caitlyn with a dedicated support does give me trouble, though. The trap feet and net trick gets me more times than I would care to admit.