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Riot Logic —— Ranged AD carries too dominant? Increase the cost of Armor

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LunarRai ?? Senior Member
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11-15-2012

Exhaust.
Now reduces attack speed.

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Mahoh ?? Senior Member
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11-15-2012

We'll have to see how things work out in S3. I'm betting old school Trynd and Yi are going to do some work before too long.

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11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by alpha quail View Post
Phantom dancer nerf and

Ohmwrecker

High End Siege Item
Recipe:Catalyst + Chain Vest
Active: Disables nearby enemy towers for 2.5 seconds, preventing them from attacking.


State otherwise.
Dude, how is Ohmwrecker a nerf to ranged AD carries?

it's 2.5 sec of free shooting a the turret.

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11-15-2012

Warmog's nerfed too...can't stack +350 HP on it anymore and replaced by HP5.

Armor/mresist gets less efficient, the principal health item is nerfed by 28%. What next...

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Since when were ad carries TOO dominant? Most important role? arguably yes. Late game they are clearly the best (I won't argue with that), but they also take the longest amount of time to get to late game. Unless fed, an adc has next to no chance of killing anybody 1v1 early or mid game. They remain squishy all game and require HEAVY amounts of positioning. The increase in armor is more for top lane in my opinion. Far too often, people would buy ninja tabi and chain vest (around a 2k investment) and your opponent could not even touch you.
"AD carry too dominant" was Riot's words, if I remembered correctly.

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11-15-2012

Increased the cost of attack speed --

Nerfed Phantom Dancer move speed --

The reduced cost in AD helps AD casters more than AD Carries

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Increased the cost of attack speed --

Nerfed Phantom Dancer move speed --

The reduced cost in AD helps AD casters more than AD Carries
Yet we have the Hurricane thingy.

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11-15-2012

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Warmog's nerfed too...can't stack +350 HP on it anymore and replaced by HP5.

Armor/mresist gets less efficient, the principal health item is nerfed by 28%. What next...
Less efficient, but more available. And Warmog's was never an attractive item for most tanks unless they specifically scaled off of health. It was only good for making bruisers unreasonably hard to kill.

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Yet we have the Hurricane thingy.
That only gives raw attack speed and doesn't scale with critical strike chance.

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11-15-2012

the reason why ranged adc's are dominate is because they belong to the standard team composition. Without the other team members playing a different role, the ranged adc can't do its job. for example, playing with decent players, if one team had 1 ranged adc on their team vs another with 2 ranged adcs, the first team would build more armor and hp to counter the glass cannons that most adc's build.

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11-15-2012

The hurricane item will be garbage if you can't toggle it on/off. I don't want to constantly push my lane whenever I last hit.

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