I loved the old TT because it made high mobility champs really fun to play because you could jump over so many walls in escape or pursuit and it was fun. Sure, you could play Mundo and run away with ult and whatnot but Lee Sin warding over a wall and shielding to it to then Q you was just so satisfying. The turtle games were annoying but I still loved it. Especially the wards. I'd ALWAYS ward top Dragon to have vision of that AND to know when someones up in the jungle. Now that the new map is cramped and small and doesn't have wards Lee Sin dies because he doesn't have his life wards and everyone gets the thought that you don't really need to buy wards at all ever. To me it just sets a bad example. I'd be happier if the new TT was enlarged a little and had wards back in but I still like all the things you could do in old TT. Me and my friend would have an awesome time as I warded over a wall and shielded to it as Lee to see him Jump away as Kha'Zix.

OLD T T by far!

New TT

They could at least name it properly. There is nothing even vaguely resembling Treeline in this new map.

I'm happy that some folks like the new map. I've got some friends who would never play Treeline that are ok playing shadow isle sometimes, so the change of pace from SR is ok - but when I'm solo, I still want old Treeline.

There was actually a jungle. There was actually a lane phase. more, and more interesting champions were strong there. I LIKED the tight, cramped, but large jungle with lots of walls, even when I wasnt playing jumpy champs. It was different.

New map is too open. Too roamy. The spider boss feels like a win-more, rather than a thing you have to constantly keep an eye on, and forces real fights, since nobody can really hope to take it until level 15 or so, let alone with an enemy team on you.

I dont HATE it, but I want the old map back damnit.

Ok...so I have played alot of games on the NEW TT now, and im not saying it is a bad map, but I have noticed that me and my friends are not having as much fun as on the OLD TT, and in my opinion the Vilemaw,is too hard to kill, because with some teams that are not all bruisers, they arn't "tanky" enough to be able to kill it.

Turrets and inhibs need more hp, altars need longer cap times, and death timers need to be tweaked (higher at low leveles, lower at high) but the new map is SOLID.

Vastly increased champ viability - ban Darius and you can make 90% of the champs work.
Non-random jungle - this was always a serious obstacle to actual competitive play.
Better version of Dragon - Old one was a joke considering it fills the same role as Baron nashor.
Better map flow - Awareness matters more and it's much harder to juke making bruisers less godly.

Downsides? Almost none past the tweaks I mentioned, which they've already spoken to. Not sure when Nome will change those, but things are seriously looking up.

Frankly, there is only ONE legitimate complaint about the new TT. They launched it during the final two weeks of the Season 2 close out. This ****ed teams pushing for rank for the end of the season. Had they held off until the pre-season and made the changes discovered in this "beta" (more hp on turrets, inhibs, longer cap times, tweaked death timers) the map would be just about perfect.

Old TT, while it will always have a place in my heart, is a joke compared to the new one.