About 4-5 days ago I got warned for inappropriate behavior. I looked at the case, I read every game that I got reported in and I was like "Wow... I was being a ******bag I really did deserve this warning... I need to clean my act up." Then two days after I got the warning, I get banned for games that happened 2-3 weeks before I got my warning.
And, I'm just like... "Real?" I'm not here to defend the case as to why I get banned (though I only think one game was report worthy). What I am here to do is say that this does not create a positive environment for toxic players to clean up their act. When I got warned I WANTED to clean my act up, I WANTED to make sure I didn't get banned.
But now? Ehh honestly, League of Legends doesn't interest me as a game anymore. I trusted you Lyte, your words about how the Tribunal is there to help players reform and isn't there to just ban people and say bye-bye! And you know, Lyte or the Riot Troll (I forgot his name, starts with a Z) may get on here and be like: "Well looking at your history and your reports, we can say you are a toxic player and we aren't even really sure we want you here anymore."
That's cool, maybe I was a toxic player in my games, I at the time though didn't realize that. I can look back and remember a lot of games where I was indeed toxic for various reasons. However after I got my warning, I wanted to clean up my act. I loved League of Legends, I've spent a lot of time and money on this game.
But the thought that many months from now I may get a week or two week ban because of games that were several months back my behavior slipped and I fell back into that toxic persona again doesn't sit well with me. Why? Because if that happens how will I know I won't get a perma ban immediately after for games before my 2 week ban? Not even given a chance to reform, just a 2 week ban into a perma ban without a single chance.
I don't know, that thought just doesn't sit well with me. I don't think my behavior would slip if I decided to continue playing League. But if it does and I don't get any kind of warning (or ban) about it till months down the road and then I get banned again immediately after for again games months before? Ehh... Just doesn't sit well with me.
I thought the Tribunal was about modifying players behavior. In it's current form it's just a slow clogged down machine that takes months to reach a punishment for toxic behavior, but as soon as it does it rapidly descends upon that player punishing them harshly for behavior they weren't really aware that was toxic.
Like I said, at the time that these games I got warned and banned for, I didn't see myself as a toxic player. However looking back at my warning cases (and 1 of my games that got me banned) I can definitely see the toxicity level I was creating and it sickens me. I've yet to log into League today as my ban comes up either today or tonight at 12 am, but I'm not so sure I want to...
Until I get some reassurance from Lyte that the Tribunal really is about Player Behavior Modification and not just a machine that warns and bans players almost instantaneously, I don't think I'll log into League for awhile.
Anyway, thats just my two cents. Trolls can feel free to downvote.
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Originally Posted by Eugenides
Guys, he's not saying he's innocent. He's saying that as the system currently functions, it isn't actually giving players warnings and helping them reform. It's sitting around, collecting data, and then in one big rush dumping all this evidence in their lap and saying "here, have a ban."
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Edit1: If I had gotten the warning after those games that I was being toxic in, but before the games I got banned for, I know for a FACT that I would not have gotten banned. Why? Because my reaction to the warning would've been the same, which was: "Damn I'm being an *******, I need to clean up my behavior before I get banned!" Instead though, I got warned months later for those games, and then got banned immediately after my warning.
