Originally Posted by RiotKiddington
I guess if you have time you can do an analysis on what the bonus reset schedule for odd alternating play hours. I do not think it will provide significant benefit over the existing system if you take majority of players' playing time into consideration.
let me know if I made any errors in my calculation, since I rarely do math at 2 AM in the morning.
I think the the 22 hour FWotD timer is flawed, but think that there is a better option than "just midnight" as a reset time.
Currently, you are awarded a 150 point IP boost for your “First Win of the Day,” which is calculated as any time after 22 hours after your previous win. There are many problems with this, however. The main problem is that you only have a two hour window in which to get your FWotD before this window of time starts to slide later in the day. This assumes that people have a very rigid and reliable LoL playing window every day. Unfortunately, I do not believe this to be the case for most people, including myself.
Consider several different types of individuals who have different windows of play.
The first is the Consistent Gamer, the only type who the current timer appeals to. He plays for two hours every day (Monday-Sunday) from 7-9pm, and never misses this window nor plays at a different time. As long as he gets a win during this window, he is certain to get another chance for his FWotD the next day. There is never a time where he can play a day and *not* have at least a chance to get his FWotD.
The second type is the Weekender. He plays every day, but his schedule is different Sunday-Thursday and Friday/Saturday. During work nights, he manages to get his two hour block in from 7-9pm before bed, as he has work in the morning. During the weekends, however, he goes out with friends most evenings, and so doesn’t get his LoL time until Midnight-2 AM. Even if he wins at least one time during each block of LoL time, he *cannot* get his FWotD bonus on Sunday. The timer makes it such that he must be asleep by the time the timer resets, and so he loses out on 150 IP.
The third type is the Randomizer. She plays ever day, but due to classes and her part time job scheduling her differently every day, her two hour block is at a random time every day. Sometimes she manages to get in two hours before bed, at 10-Midnight. Sometimes she only gets time before class in the morning, from 6-8 AM. The chances of her even having the *possibility* of getting her FWotD on two consecutive days are very low, as she would have to randomly have the same block of time *or later.* However, if she ever has a “late block” (such as the 10-Midnight block) of LoL, the chance that her block of time the next day will be that time or later is extremely slim. Even though she technically plays (and most likely gets at least one win) every day, it will be impossible for her to get the FWotD bonus a little less than half of her days.
The last type is the Professional. She plays 10 hours of games every day at around the same time. While it is very possible for this person to get many, many wins during her day, a series of unlikely events could cause her to miss her FWotD bonus. If she ever has a losing streak during the first 2 hour FWotD window after the 22 hour reset time, that window moves later and later in the day. Eventually it’s possible that she needs to get her “first win of the day” in the last hour of her 10 hours of gaming, and, if she doesn’t win during that specific time, even 10 hours a day of gaming isn’t enough for a FWotD.
I am personally more of a Randomizer. Sometimes I don’t get to play until midnight or later. When I do so, I know that there will be a day very soon where I won’t get my FWotD simply because I can’t stay up late enough, even if I could play (and win) a few games earlier in the day. I end up missing quite a few FWotD even when I do play all day.
Instead of a flat 22 hour timer, FWotD should be determined by “8 hours after your last win *or* 4 AM Pacific (for NA server), whichever is later.”
First of all, I needed the “day” of FWotD to change at some point, and 4 AM seemed reasonable. I know a lot of people stay up late to play games, and 2 AM on a Sunday morning really ‘feels’ like it should count as Saturday, considering you haven’t gone to sleep yet. 4 AM puts it in the dead of night, likely at a lull in the servers, and seemed to me to be a good day-change point. This could be changed easily if Riot has better data on when the best day-change could be.
Now, the major argument against a specific time for when FWotD resets is that people could just play during that time and get two FWotD in a row. If, for example, the reset was at midnight, someone could stay up late Monday night and get FWotD (Monday) at 11:30 PM and FWotD (Tuesday) at midnight. Then you wouldn’t even need to play at all on Tuesday and you would have still received a bonus. This does not promote what Riot wants - you actually *haven’t* played every day - and so does not deserve a reward.
Because of this, there is an 8 hour minimum timer on FWotD. This feels correct to me, as 8 hours is enough for a good night’s rest in between gaming sessions. To me, the “new day” starts after sleeping, and so it makes sense that your FWotD resets in that time. In concert, the specific reset time (4 AM) stops people from getting multiple FWotD in a single calendar day, while the 8 hour minimum timer allows people to play at different times during different days and still get their FWotD.
How this affects our individuals:
The Consistent Gamer still gets his FWotD consistently as always. No change.
The Weekender now gets his Sunday night FWotD (as it reset at 10 AM instead of past midnight). Positive change.
The Randomizer now gets her FWotD every day (as it reset while she was sleeping, no matter when she played last). Positive change.
The Professional can’t help but get her FWotD every day (as the reset time doesn’t “drift” later in the day). Positive change.
But Xepel, wont the 8 hour *or* 4 AM reset be confusing to people? I don’t think so. Already the FWotD timer drifts from day to day, and it is more confusing than this system; people currently have to rely on the in-game timer to determine when their FWotD is up. Under my system, as long as you have slept since your last FWotD, your next FWotD is ready. Simple!
Riot, please change the FWotD timer such that more people can get the FWotD bonus they deserve!