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IWillDominate Tribunal Permaban & eSports Competition Ruling

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Winasorb ?? Member
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12-06-2012

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Originally Posted by Pepsakdoek View Post
This is not a false positive. Ashe needs punishment. So does Heimer, but Heimer's actions does not justify Ashe's.

Do not call someone ******, even when provoked.
So wait you're saying that if 1 bad word slips out aimed at the most blatant troll in existence... once in a millennium, 1 game between hundreds, you can get banned? Get real kid, stop trying to justify something you can't. Not to mention there's a chat filter for a reason. (Yes, the code says a chat filter is no reason to curse, but 1 bad word aimed at a troll in over hundreds of games is no reason for suspension, none whatsoever and nobody can deny it otherwise everyone would be banned for just saying 1 bad word so watch out)

 
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The Magus ?? Senior Member
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12-06-2012

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Originally Posted by Winasorb View Post
So wait you're saying that if 1 bad word slips out aimed at the most blatant troll in existence... once in a millennium, 1 game between hundreds, you can get banned? Get real kid, stop trying to justify something you can't. Not to mention there's a chat filter for a reason. (Yes, the code says a chat filter is no reason to curse, but 1 bad word aimed at a troll in over hundreds of games is no reason for suspension, none whatsoever and nobody can deny it otherwise everyone would be banned for just saying 1 bad word so watch out)
Inductive hyperbole - Logical fallacy where a conclusion is worded much more strongly than the argument gives evidence for.

1. We're not talking about 1 word slipped once every 1,000 years, or even slipped at all. You're trying to overplay a sense of innocence by creating he false notion that not only do we have any sense of frequency, but that it has a larger effect at all.

2. Do not underplay what he said. Do not do that. He didn't just drop a brick on his foot and shout "****!". This wasn't a kneejerk interjection, and he didn't pick a simple negative word like "jerk" or "*******". We're talking about of the most stained pejoratives in the English language, a word with a very serious and heavy history behind it that should never be treated so lightly and frivolously. You want to call someone who disagrees with you "kid", but I assure you only the childishly ignorant would be so distant as to not feel the impact of his word choice.

3. Do not overplay the fact that he is responding to a troll. This is a factor to be sure, and it is likely to give some leeway to his actions. To a point. Not to this point. You're not wrong in this being a factor, but you greatly over weigh it's impact and under weigh his decision.

In relation to point 1, people do not make it to the Tribunal for a single game. They also do not usually receive bans, even temp ones, on their first offense. He was right to be punished for that game, and the severity of his punishment is in relation to how often he's been in the Tribunal. So once again, no, we're not judging by a once in many human lifetimes and his grandchildren are paying for it kind of scenario.

The rest of his attitude might make a reconsideration before punishment, but don't try to even pretend it's so demure and clear that "none whatsoever and nobody can deny it". That he should be considered for pardon at all is a very generous gesture, it is definitely not the status quo.

 
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NegaStoat ?? Senior Member
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He flames get 1 yr suspension

Frost player cheats in world playoffs gets fined money all I'm saying is woong should not be able to play tournaments for cheating in the finals considering what her did
Agreed. That is the second biggest reason why I dropped playing this game. Well, with the first being Riot's treatment of support champs. Woong being slapped on the wrist but allowed to continue whereas LoLDrop hack users and Mastery Hack users got the boot on the first offense... It sent a clear signal of Riot saying 'We like money, we like events that generate game interest and profits, and we value that more than the rules".

 
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Uyrus ?? Senior Member
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12-06-2012

glad to hear

 
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MikeRoch ?? Member
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12-06-2012

Lol. So this clown gets banned. Big deal.

The community is still toxic and the tribunal does nothing but suppress some of them. It doesnt open new insight on being a better player, it just makes them grind their teeth in hate and look for other methods to exert their **** attitude.

 
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T0ggle ?? Member
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12-06-2012

Hear me out, how long before people start realizing that anyone can be reported for something thats not against the terms of service code of conduct and still be suspended and/or perma-banned.
How long before all of you realize that your account you spent so many years devoting your life too, all those limited edition skins and hundreds of dollars dumped into it is in the hands of the public. If I ever get pissed off at a player, get harassed or insults, i'm 22 years old, I can type /ignore and move on. I won't report that player and then go on the tribunal and vote punish to players like this. i'm an adult male who's feelings are not easily effected by a video game, and I live by do unto others as you would want them to do to you. I will not ever vote an ******* to be permabanned.

Only Afker and griefers should be banned/suspended, behavior is not an acceptable excuse for punishment!

 
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ltachi ?? Senior Member
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12-06-2012

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Originally Posted by Letkhar View Post
Meanwhile, in TSM land Dyrus rages, intentionally feeds, and ragequits every other game.

If you want me to actually take you seriously about this you need to be consistent.

EDIT: Downvotes from TSM fanboys who are the reason Dyrus gets preferential treatment.
How's living in an alternate reality working out for you? Here in real person land, Dyrus streams daily in front of a dozen thousand people and never intentionally feeds or Leaves a game. Good luck convincing thousands of witnesses that what they see every day is in fact an elaborate illusion hiding a TSM conspiracy.

 
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Memorylame ?? Senior Member
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12-06-2012

someone get this man a job at BK!...

 
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OneTobi ?? Senior Member
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12-06-2012

Back to his day job!

 
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12-06-2012

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Originally Posted by Winasorb View Post
I wanna see you try to justify this one
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5992771/

(Just for the record Heimer explicitly said on champ select that he was trolling and went 2 mid even after Annie called it and locked, leaving me Ashe alone vs 2 and trolled all game despite my efforts to carry the team)

I'm baffled at how resilient Riot employees are when trying to defend a system that HAS its false positives.
IWillDominate was indeed toxic and did deserve the ban but your beloved tribunal system is very very very far from perfect with this many false positives, it makes me nauseous to hear you talk as if it is.
Sigh, just because someone is trolling, doesn't give you an excuse to insult them or rage at them. This just brings you down to their level and lowers the general mood and aesthetics of the game. If they don't listen to reason, ignore it. Yes, it will kinda suck, but you may not have won anyway, and you can't always win, otherwise there'd jut be one team.
I personally would have reported you, or Ashe, for it. They didn't behave appropriately but you shouldn't have done the same.
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