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So I deserved this, but I have a question.

 
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Kinvaras666 ?? Senior Member
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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Amg iTz Alex View Post
So, going off of what you just said you admitted to being one sided during the judgements and not reading the ENTIRE case, because if you do I think I cursed one time in that game, while I was cursed at several (basically proving my point on this case at least) that the tribunal is broken and leaving the judgement to the players is a terrible idea as 80-85% of the players are too lazy to read the ENTIRE game, or look at the fact that the person in question is carrying and their team is doing terrible, because whenever I carry and my team brings me down and makes me almost lose (I never lose btw.) I get fairly agitated as does the rest of the league of legends community.

What I am saying is:

When it is pretty obvious that person is verbally abusing one or more people, then it is generally not needed to read the chat from everyone, but just the purple chat, which is the accused player's chat.


Besides, even in most cases where "he started it", it is not needed to read other people's chats.

One player is judged by his own behavior, if his behavior is one or more of these
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Cassiopeia [All] [00:08:25] press R and get penta's?
Cassiopeia [All] [00:08:27] omg so hard..
Cassiopeia [All] [00:08:33] I cramp up sometimes honestly.

Cassiopeia [All] [00:14:00] surrender@20 please I need to go somewhere soon.

Cassiopeia [All] [00:21:21] jessus you are pathetic..
Cassiopeia [All] [00:21:24] all of you honestly.
and such, then no, we don't need to read "all the chat", but only the accused player's chat (that was your question, not if we read every chat to the end). Because NOTHING said or done by other players would excuse it.

Whats wrong with being "one sided" anyway? We are there to vote to punish ONE player, not the whole team.



BTW, where did you get the number that 85-90% players doesn't read the whole chat? It is a very good statistics, if you can prove it as true, that is it.

 
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Amg iTz Alex ?? Senior Member
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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Amg iTz Alex View Post
Do explain how my question is stupid, it's the question the 3rd post quoted, the simple fact that you suggested this question stupid without giving a reason or a answer to the question suggest that I'm correct in my assumption and that you didn't read the entire paragraph, also showing that not only do the "judges" not read the case but the post about them too and simply flame the people posting.

GJ showing a lack of intelligence on your part.
OH and you just restated what my forum TITLE said so thank you.

 
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kaleb bartlett ?? Senior Member
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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Amg iTz Alex View Post
neither is ignorance.
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In the majority of the cases I beleive I was antagonized first and then I respond with my insults.
again, refer back to my post.

also...

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IMO people should not be banned for "offensive language"( honestly if you're playing on the internet you should be prepared to be offended anyway) instead they should be muted like EVERY other online game does for "offensive language".
and to quote the FAQ...

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[NEW] Why is verbal abuse punishable if there is a mute button/language filter?

Players shouldn’t need to rely on features like the mute button or language filter to engage with other players in positive ways. When a player verbally abuses another player and forces him to use the mute button, they have already created a negative experience for that player.

 
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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Kinvaras666 View Post
What I am saying is:

When it is pretty obvious that person is verbally abusing one or more people, then it is generally not needed to read the chat from everyone, but just the purple chat, which is the accused player's chat.


Besides, even in most cases where "he started it", it is not needed to read other people's chats.

One player is judged by his own behavior, if his behavior is one or more of these


and such, then no, we don't need to read "all the chat", but only the accused player's chat (that was your question, not if we read every chat to the end). Because NOTHING said or done by other players would excuse it.

Whats wrong with being "one sided" anyway? We are there to vote to punish ONE player, not the whole team.



BTW, where did you get the number that 85-90% players doesn't read the whole chat? It is a very good statistics, if you can prove it as true, that is it.
it's more of a theoretical number oh and there's plenty of things wrong with being one sided, as you have just proved me correct again with that statement, and the tribunal is meant to be "fair and just to everyone" so by being one sided you are breaking your precious tribunal even more, thank you for proving me correct even more.

 
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Kinvaras666 ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Amg iTz Alex View Post
OH and you just restated what my forum TITLE said so thank you.

You quoted yourself, meaning you just thanked yourself for restating something you had already stated before.

Congratulations on that.

 
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RockLobster88 ?? Senior Member
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12-08-2012

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Honestly when you people even read and "judge" the cases do you read the chat of the other people or just the accused?
Like Conker's Bad Fur Day, it's context-sensitive. Sometimes it's the lesser of two evils, and while report worthy, the context makes it a bit more understandable on why you say it. I did think
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Darius [All] [00:15:44] bad so bad
Fiora [All] [00:16:04] says the person who got smashed in a 2v1 in lane
was not a great thing to say on your part, but at the same time, I do feel it's a justified retort. I would let something that minor slip by.

However, when I see:

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Cassiopeia [All] [00:07:38] ahahahaha
Cassiopeia [All] [00:07:44] l2play a complicated champ please.

Fiora [All] [00:10:42] b-b-b-b-bad.
Fiora [All] [00:10:49] honestly you should uninstall.

Fiora [All] [00:17:40] and since you're darius you're automatically bad

Fiora [All] [00:22:15] kill hungry *****.
Fiora [All] [00:22:19] l2play noob.

Skarner [All] [00:01:02] time to troll.
Skarner [All] [00:01:07] kat auto'd when we already had a mid.

Katarina [All] [00:05:45] so doesnt rengars q
Skarner [All] [00:05:58] kat you were getting stomped at mid..
Kassadin [All] [00:05:58] u did barley anything
Skarner [All] [00:06:01] so stfu<3

Skarner [All] [00:13:51] ****ing.noob khazix.

Skarner [All] [00:21:44] how'd that work out noobo's?
Skarner [All] [00:21:47] damn you are bad.
Skarner [All] [00:21:50] all of you
I don't need context. You're being an ass, and being an ass gets you reported and banned.

 
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12-08-2012

is this kid really indenial? do you have no clue what you've been saying? get some self control.

 
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Amg iTz Alex ?? Senior Member
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again, refer back to my post.
you can refer back to mine aswell, as you simply didn't understand what I was saying, if you didn't ask me I'll be happy to tell you, I'm not as nice as other people act to be nice.

 
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is this kid really indenial? do you have no clue what you've been saying? get some self control.
never once have I denied anything I even said I deserve the ban and report, I'm only venting my frustrations on how the tribunal is broken, and through your statement you have proven that you do not read anything either, and if you do read things you lack the mental capacity to understand the things being said, if you couldn't understand that I basically just called you stupid.

 
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12-08-2012

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1) Ban length is based on your punishment record. A 14-day ban means you've already been issued several warnings and bans. The length of the punishment is more of a measure of your inability to reform after all these previous bans moreso than the severity of your behavior in this particular instance.

2) If you respond to the antagonizers in a manner that does not violate the summoner's code, you will not be banned. If you report the antagonizers and they have a habit of being antagonistic, they will also be punished by the Tribunal system.
This post got ignored.

But what is it that you're struggling with most here? You said you didn't want people to tell you deserved the ban. I haven't said that. I'm willing to have a discussion with you about the system in general, regardless of what I think of your individual reform card (which I haven't looked at yet).

After you digest the two points in the quoted portion of this post, what else is it that you struggle with regarding the Tribunal?