Good. That will shortly make your reports worthless.

You're top, okay? You're up against Dario Chopman. Or at least, that's who you THINK you're up against, but you're actually up against the whole enemy team that waited for you to facecheck the bush. BAM. You're dead. Team roams mid. BAM. Mid's dead. Both kills go to Dario Chopman. Suddenly, you're soloing top against a Darius who is 2/0/0. He comes strolling back to lane with CHAIN MAIL.

You try poking him, you try farming, no, he's just a little ahead of you in experience, and suddenly, you're ganked by a Maokai . Bang, you're 0/2/0, he's 3/0/0. Meanwhile, in bot lane, your raging teammates are being decimated by Graves and Leona. You try coming top again, but this time, Darius has his ult. You're panicking now, because he just Mega-chopped you, your team is raging at you for intentionally feeding, and in the process, Leona has just bought herself an Aegis, despite dying once or twice.

You come back to top lane to save your turret...nope, Maokai dives you, along with the Diana who just roamed from mid, and this time Diana takes the kill and Darius takes the turret. You're 0/3/0.

You try farming top. Ganked again. 0/4/0. You can't do anything in teamfights, you're useless, so you go to try farming again. DEAD. No one's coming to gank for you, you're 0/5/0, but now all the lanes are falling.

You enter a teamfight. The enemy knows you're weak; right off the bat, Leona hits you with that Solar Flare, Graves ults, you don't even have time to move before you're dead. 0/6/0.

Next teamfight is brewing. You stray too far from the pack. Maokai roots you and the team picks you off before you can fight. Your team falls in a bloody battle, but you didn't even autoattack. 0/7/0.

Another teamfight starts. This time, you jump on Diana when she attacks your ADC. You try to stop her, but she's shielded, and Maokai raises his ult. Your ADC didn't last two seconds, and now Leona's there; her Runic Bulwark gives Diana all the bonus defense she needs, and she survives the fight. You all die.

The final stand begins, your nexus turrets are falling, you leap out to try and stop them, but Darius just swats you aside like a fly and kills you without care; the nexus explodes, and you're done. GGWP. Except that you played like ****, and you know it, and your team is yelling at you for feeding intentionally, when all you did was make a bunch of mistakes and suffer a mental breakdown because of your team's harassment.

This is how these things happen. So you need to use more evidence than the KDA ratio to judge whether or not someone fed intentionally.

Let's go through this:

Who are you playing against him as? This is kind of important. Also, you facechecked a brush without seeing anyone in lane? Strange, that doesn't seem very smart of you. Also, your middle just dies after *seeing you die* in top lane? Your middle doesn't seem very aware..

You try poking and farming a 2/0 darius with a chainmail and don't ask your jungler for help, and didn't buy a ward after losing your flash (which I'm assuming you somehow did after you randomly facechecked a brush in a panic)? Again, this sounds like you're not really doing a great job here.

Why? After obviously being down 3 kills on top and a ton of farm, you're still sitting at your turret without wards? You JUST apparently got ganked by a maoki and Diana somehow showed up without you knowing about it? Still, these things can happen, you're obviously not a great player.

Again, the question is, you've been ganked 100 times and you're not warding. You apparently have absolutely no awareness and aren't listening to your team saying to ward and be careful. All you have to do at this point is cs and get back in the game, but you continue to lack awareness.

Are you kidding? Why would you enter a teamfight when you're down 0/5/0 and not even USE AN ABILITY in it? Totally unrealistic. A toplaner not using any ability and dying instantly is 100% unrealistic. But hey, maybe you're the worst player in the world and manage this. I'm giving you benefit of the doubt here. By this time, you should've realized what wards are and you should be pushing top, you're not worth anything at this point and you should be getting the top tower down.

Again, unrealistic. 100%.

By this time, the game would be over. Your team would be down 5-30 or something at this point and would've surrendered long ago. In fact, they would've surrendered after you were 0/5/0.

This is a pretty picture and I understand what you're trying to do, but you are also presenting it unrealistically. I have played with some of the worst people known to mankind - People who have never played a video game before. These are people that die 15 times a game and literally have no idea how to move their character.

These people get assists. In fact, they get a decent number of assists. They might end a game as 0/11/7, but they are involved in the game, even if they are awful in comparison to the other players in it.

0/9/0 is just not trying at all. Sorry.

Have you never been involved in a complete shutout game before? I've been on both sides of them in the past. If nobody else on your team ever gets a kill, how do you expect anybody to have an assist? Heck, even in a game where a team gets 2 or 3 kills during the laning phase doesn't guarantee assists for everybody. If a player lanes top and all the action happen on the lower half of the map, they won't get in on anything.

You're right in saying that when these things happen, teams will often surrender asap. But sometimes these games will end before surrender time. Other times, the losing team will refuse to surrender until they have at least one kill on the record for their team (they may never actually get it).

So yeah, to say that 0/9/0 'isn't trying' as a blanket statement is rather inaccurate. Maybe the person/team was just outclassed that much.

intentional feeding is either going to be blatantly obvious (0/21/0), else its going to require access to full replays to be accurate in assessing the situation (0/9/0 -).

Hell, I bet there's situations out there where a non-feeding player has run 0/21/0 in a horrendously bad game.

Either way, neither person is actually looking at my original statement, in that this isn't punishable by itself.

I've never seen a game where someone is 0/9/0 where the person is not intentionally trolling or feeding - Take that as you will. I'm not here to argue it - That's how I see it. An assist is not a hard thing to get.

I have seen in the last couple hundred games 2 people go 0/9/0 or worse. One was a vlad who announced he is trolling and running into minion waves to die in ranked who went 0/9/0. Another person was again, a person who announced they were trolling and literally ran into the towers all game.

I've seen hundreds of trolls. Hundreds of feeders. I had an Ezreal yesterday who literally, every time he spawned ran into the enemy to die and kept typing in /all chat to report the entire team for "abandoning him", and even he went 6/18/3 or something like that.

It's not hard to get an assist, and if it is that hard to get an assist, your team surrenders long before it's 0/9/0 for you.

Let's say the player is Jax. He's a Jax who has done well in regulars, but lost a lot of ELO in his ranked games and got low-seeded. He runs with Teleport and Ignite.

His first items are boots of speed and two health pots. No wards; he wants sustain and survivability. He's a bit slow to go up top, though, and he helps leash blue. He goes top, through the river...BAM, he's ganked. Boots don't matter, he pops a pot, but he's dead.

His mid is a bit of a tunnel-vision player, and he runs back to mid, assuming that he'll be fine and that the team won't gank him, but he takes the river back and is caught. Leona stuns him, and he's quickly eaten by the enemy team. He fails to call several MIAs, but he did say that Diana was MIA when Jax got dived. Unfortunately, the mid called the MIA but didn't DO anything about it, deciding to push the lane instead. Thus, even though Jax KNEW Diana was coming, there was nothing to be done; Darius and Maokai were quite capable of diving him.

Jax's team isn't telling him to ward, they're telling him to stop feeding. Jax is a 900 ELO player, and the rest of his team are also 900 ELO players. He knows that he needs to cs to get back in the game, but he's melee; there's no way for him to match up against a fed and happy Darius. And by now, his jungler is freaking out because everything is warded and all of the buffs are in the enemy's hands; he blames top for first blood, and refuses to gank because "top noob". We've all played with that guy. Don't deny it.

Bot can't last-hit, the support is healing every time the carry takes a few hit points of damage, draining mana, and mid is just getting outplayed and raging.


TLDR: WELCOME TO 900 ELO. Seriously. I don't know if you've ever played a ranked game at that low of a level, or a blind pick, but if you say that this is "totally unrealistic"...you clearly need to play this game more often.

I've played the game at 800 ELO and 1800 elo, and I play plenty of blind picks.

I also have friends who play at around a 200 elo level who have not only ever played the game before, but like Ezreal because he "looks very pretty". They routinely die over 10 times a game.

Even they get assists.

Hell, I have friends who are an embarassment to gaming in general that pick "Only Large characters" because "they want to feel manly". Ever see one of these guys play Alistar? If he's ever "in a fight" he's headbutting a minion or pulverizing the ground nowhere near an enemy. Even *these* guys get assists in fights.

The probability of having a game where you go 0/9+/0 is fairly low, but it is possible to do so without feeding. It happens in every game, even in games where getting kills/assists are much easier than in LoL (think Halo style perfection games). If the enemy team is sufficiently co-ordinated, ahead, and aware, they will give up little to no unnecessary deaths. Granted, this level of skill differential should never be present if the elo system worked, but elo doesn't work well for a team game.

Ironically, the matchmaking system in LoL is actually pretty decent for the most part until you get up into higher level play.

If the enemy team is sufficiently coordinated to the fact bottom has died, top is feeding and the jungler is freaking out as per swan's example, the game will be surrendered at 20 minutes, where everyone is roughly between 3-4 deaths. If it's a stomp, maybe there'll be 6 deaths. But 9? 0/9/0? Nah.

It would have to be not only a huge mismatch matchmaking side, but a player who genuinely does not care or understands his character in any way to accomplish that. It would also have to be a team that genuinely has no clue, and having played in 900 elo, even the worst team is able to generate kills. Remember, the other team is 900 elo too, and they make the same mistakes this team is making.