Riot, you wanted players to try out new patches and ideas on the PBE and here is what i have to say.


why on earth are you nerfing diana's Q that hard. im not one to complain but you guys are taking some 30-40 damage off of her q. that is like removing one whole rank when maxed out. this is ridiculous.

her earlygame is TRASH now. she can no longer toplane with her serious lack of base damage, however i will say that her endgame remains relatively the same.

she may have been strong in the past, and definitely ban worthy, but not overpowered. she was the model of "a well made champion" strong, fun, great lore.


still Riot, i believe this is an unneeded change. who else agrees? can i get some bumps?

She was too strong, brought tanky aoe damage and disable that rendered ap assassins rather obsolete when she could do the same and tank alongside it and could also jungle while providing the same. Chunking a large amount off with a multi-target skillshot that then allows her to engage was something that needed to be nerfed.

shes also melee you know, she needs the tankiness to fight, other ap assasins fight from a distance and are safe from damage

She was designed as an AP Bruiser, but is an assassin, Riot dropped the ball pretty hard there. Now what we have is an assassin with Bruiser level scaling. 30 Damage isn't going to fix her from killing your ADC in one combo.

if they honestly wanted her to be a bruiser, i would reccomend low cooldown abilities with low damage, like rumble or evelynn for example.

i wouldent mind them nerfing the damage of q, but then lower the cooldown and lower the damage of her ultimate (since it refreshes) and she would fit perfectly, then people would be more inclined to build her tank-style since with longer survivability she can cast her abilities more times, same playstyle/mentality as renekton. rather than making her a 6 second cd burst ap champion.

She's got a good kit. Her Crescent Strike+Lunar Rush combo lends itself well to either sustain or burst damage based on what you decide to do with it, and they wisely put her damage spam ability as a passive. I feel like her kit has fantastic adaptability, making it a matter of performing the correct combo for a situation, and I like that about her (so I don't want that reworked). I still believe she is more bruiser, but she has a pseudo-assassiny combo, and she sticks to her target extremely well (which I still feel is where most of the calling her an assassin comes from, it's really hard to escape her damage once she decides to fight you post-6).

Yeah, unfortunately the nerfs have the potential to wreck her laning for good, but people feel she needs a nerf and quite honestly I don't know what else can be nerfed without potentially nerfing her jungling as well, maybe AP scaling on her shield to make straight AP more squishy, but that's about it. The only other thought I had was to force her to commit more to do damage, but that commit comes from her ult, so the only option I came up with there was to sharply nerf Q's damage and moving some of that to her ult. Trick is that's an ult, so that kind of move would destroy her early game as you mention.

Shes MELEE she needs to be tanky to survive for more than 2 seconds to do some damage before getting killed. She has a strong initiation but no escapes,
so once shes in, is either killed or be killed. Her poke is easy to avoid, and ive seen worst with Ahri for example.

I see shes in the cross hair because of the high %bans she has, shes nowhere near Shen tough