Originally Posted by Jesus the Friend
The scenario she described could , at any point, be used to damage a man.
In fact, her scenario, with absolutely no changes, mirrors the beginning of many (false) rape stories.
Also, false accusations of stalking, assault, harassment, etc.
"It's only bad when they don't like it"
MRA = Men's rights activist.
MGTOW = Men going their own way
(Men who reject interactions with females(Except as sex objects sometimes) in this vag-poisoned world, no wife, no girlfriend, ever)
I understand what you're saying about "it's only bad when they don't like it". I have been on the receiving end of that situation many times. Sometimes my first reaction is 'flattery' (positive), sometimes it's 'creepy' (negative). I see why someone would want such behavior done away with- it's way too up to interpretation and leaves the initiating party vulnerable.
So, now that it's established that I understand your revulsion, I would like to ask: What would you suggest as an alternative? If a guy wants to ask a girl he just met for her phone number, how should he do that? What should he say so to be not 'creepy' and get the desired end result?
In addition, I'm wondering: Do you think less of men who want a long-term, exclusive relationship with a woman?
Let's say you mean the perfect woman for you. Whatever YOUR ideal is, she has it. Would you want a relationship with her? It can be open (more than one sexual partner), or have whatever other freedoms you'd require to be happy, but also the commitment of "you two are the one each others loves and wants to be with for a very long time". Would you want that? Or would you reject her because of your distaste for wives/girlfriends on principal?
and DO NOT say "that's impossible, not going to answer." Do you know what hypothetical means?
In summary: How would you suggest a guy gets a girls phone number, what do you think of men who want a girlfriend/wife, and would you want your IDEAL woman to be your girlfriend/wife?