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RadiantWings ?? Senior Member
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12-18-2012

You can't just say that you'll be getting 150 gold every 3 minutes. There are plenty of times where you'll be replacing a ward you just placed like:

-Warding a different part of the enemy jungle.

-While pushing towards the enemy's lane or the enemy is pushing towards your lane, you ward the appropriate brush while keeping one in river.

-Place a double ward with an ally by mistake. Now you can just replace a few wards.

-Refresh a ward in a hotspot area a minute before it expires in preparation for dragon or baron.

 
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SPIKERZ ?? Member
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12-18-2012

sight stone would be more viable if you could place more than two wards at a time on the map. 2 charges in my opinion is not enough for me to drop 700 gold. They should atleast make it so I can use the all charges at once

 
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vAfrican ?? Junior Member
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12-18-2012

Sightstones are a step into the evolution of this game in Season 3.

 
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FreeGothitelle ?? Senior Member
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12-19-2012

Sight stones are amazing.
As a support I generally rush sight stone after my gp10 items because of the amazing ward coverage i can have.

Over a game I'll easily place 15+ wards, so the gold is easily made back up. Plus a ward's never really a waste with a sightstone, so I can freely ward key areas of either jungle fluidly as is demanded.

 
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SiKkNdTwiSt3D ?? Senior Member
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12-19-2012

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Originally Posted by Peligrad View Post
Sightstone is OP...

The ability to toss wards willynilly...so incredibly powerful...

Ruby sight stone is even better because you basically just pay for the hp when upgrading it...and get to place 3 rather than 2 and hold an extra charge...

If you aren't utilizing the sightstone as the support...or even the jungler...you are making a big mistake...

In addition, a sightstone denies 15 gold per ward they remove compared to real wards (and if you are clever about it, you deny them all gold, just by placing more wards if they discover one making the one they discover disappear...)

I build sight stone on my support every time...
I build sight stone on most my junglers...
And if I play a support oriented top lane, I build a sight stone on them too...

I will assure you that when the first S3 tourny comes around, people are going to see 2-4 sightstones per team in those games....

Edit: People are ignoring the fact that the item gives 100 hp (300 for ruby). 180 hp is worth 475g...so 100 is worth about 200g.

So for 700g you get 200g worth of hp and 300g worth of wards on the first return. And an additional 300g per return after that.

So your sightstone puts you ahead on gold on just your second return...

Like I said, ridiculously strong item is ridiculously strong....

You get 2 ruby sightstones on your team and you never buy wards after the first return.

Then, you take the gold you saved not buying wards and buy an oracle elixir or an extra piece of gear... huge advantage...
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Iittala ?? Member
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02-03-2013

Can`t rush sight stone anymore.. have to get an income item... What is the new way to rush for supports? suggestion? ideas?

 
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Mradr ?? Senior Member
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02-03-2013

Yes NONE of you have done the math really... Do the math... the new sightstone is just plane bad... I even just did a game without it... HAD WAY MORE stuff than the other support that had even more kills ... that's should NEVER happen.

I had the spots covered and plus some (4 wards out there) compare to their limited 2 or 3.Just say... you all that say otherwise never show any proof... yet you think are you right xD makes me laugh at this point.


-Warding a different part of the enemy jungle.

^ Your jungler or you can for cheaper

-While pushing towards the enemy's lane or the enemy is pushing towards your lane, you ward the appropriate brush while keeping one in river.

^ You can for cheaper

-Place a double ward with an ally by mistake. Now you can just replace a few wards.

^ you should be punshed for it tho...

-Refresh a ward in a hotspot area a minute before it expires in preparation for dragon or baron.

^ A WHOLE MINUTE :O


Either way.. you'll be -behinde by about 400 gold right off if you get one... and then the first 12 wards cost you WAY more than getting a ward will be... 12 wards !!! O.o what? 12 x 3 = 36 mins of the game xD too funny. For the same 12 wards I can still have money left over to buy another item with... Even if you warp back as soon as you can... you will still have a HUGE opening to be ganged because you wont have the wards to do so.

 
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Iittala ?? Member
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02-03-2013

cost of new sightstone 950/75(cot of ward) 13 wards for the blue sightstone. 2 wards at a time with a max charge of 4 wards.. it takes 7 trips to make up the cost.. or about 21 minutes.. just for the blue sightstone. oh you rush ruby... the cost if 1550/ 75(cost of ward) 21 wards to make up cost..3 wards at a time with a max of 5 chrages it takes 7 trips to make up the cost....over 30ish minutes or a lot more time since.. You can`t rush a ruby sightstone. comparison to philo stone cost is 700 gold. 5 gold per 10 seconds.(30 gold a minute) about 24 minutes to make up cost. They are even now... prefence on sight and raw health or sustain and income.

 
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Wambol ?? Junior Member
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02-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Iittala View Post
cost of new sightstone 950/75(cot of ward) 13 wards for the blue sightstone. 2 wards at a time with a max charge of 4 wards.. it takes 7 trips to make up the cost.. or about 21 minutes.. just for the blue sightstone. oh you rush ruby... the cost if 1550/ 75(cost of ward) 21 wards to make up cost..3 wards at a time with a max of 5 chrages it takes 7 trips to make up the cost....over 30ish minutes or a lot more time since.. You can`t rush a ruby sightstone. comparison to philo stone cost is 700 gold. 5 gold per 10 seconds.(30 gold a minute) about 24 minutes to make up cost. They are even now... prefence on sight and raw health or sustain and income.
now that they've raised the price, I personally prefer the philo, and buy wards out right. the health isn't worth the space and the 2-3 ward placement maximum just doesn't cut it for the amount of places I need to constantly keep warded.

 
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Sexelady ?? Junior Member
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02-04-2013

your scenario happens once in 1000 games

more realistic, by late game, support who went sightstone is at least 1000 gold ahead from having to purchase fewer wards.

say you place your first 2 wards at 2:30 by 14:30 you've gotten your money back in wards and a free 180 health on top.