Originally Posted by Aerogos

An Ass? Whoops, I'm sorry. Didn't mean to butthurt ya brah. Have a pogostick, on Darius.

Originally Posted by Mishli

you do have a modest point there, but with darius, his ultimate is almost always up, the second thing is, it's much more dangerous to jump to a target than to pull them in, darius's apprehend is almost like a mini blitzcrank grab, sure it pulls in multiple targets, which can come back to bite him, but that's rare, if wukong is at half hp, he might be a little wary of jumping towards the enemy team to get the kill, while darius can pull you to his team. if wukong had to use his ultimate to escape, or aid in another kill, he might not be able to kill said half health carry in under 3 seconds, and then the carry would have a chance to flash away, or possibly cc in the case of vayne or draven. while in darius' case, if he grabs them, melee, q w, it doesn't matter what they do, if they flash, stun, silence, his ulti is already dropping and there's nothing that can be done

Originally Posted by HereticSage

His bleeds are turning physical, weakening his early game a little when he's itemized against, but dramatically buffing his mid/late game due to his inherent 25% armor penetration and synergy with black cleaver.

Originally Posted by Crazyflames

The only thing I don't like about his ult is how it and Garen's aren't even comparable.

Garen's ult has far longer cooldown, Garens ult does magic damage vs true damage, Garen's ult doesn't refresh on cooldown, with full stacks, and Darius' ult does more damage than Garens in vitually every situation before magic resist.

I know they are different champs with different basic abilities but I feel like they need to change his ult in some way, it consuming charges definately makes sense.