Originally Posted by Titiln

im wondering why the post isnt hidden yet.

Originally Posted by Katarìna

Sherm. You seem to be stuck on positioning when it's quite clear that anyone still posting here knows that positioning is key on Kat. Positioning isn't a Kat only thing, so touting it like it's the be all end all of playing Kat isn't really right. Kat is so simple to play that a monkey could get at least a double with her in a game.

This thread is about diversity, please stop trying to derail it into a 'I know Kat mechanics better than you do' sort of thing, even though that is sometimes necessary when dealing with people who don't know Kat mechanics.

Originally Posted by Thrashie

Fun fact: Katarina needs nerfs

Originally Posted by Whyumai

Dunno about nerfs, but, she should lose all her AD ratios.

She's already got enough going for her that she doesn't need to scale AP and AD. Plus all her damage is magic damage so Armor Pen is useless on her, most There's not enough Hybrid items to go Hybrid, and she doesn't really auto attack that much so crit and attack speed aren't that good either. Therefore most AD items aren't actually that beneficial to Katarina.

So, basically, remove her AD ratios, raise her AP ratios a little, and she'd be fine.

Originally Posted by Whyumai

Dunno about nerfs, but, she should lose all her AD ratios.

She's already got enough going for her that she doesn't need to scale AP and AD. Plus all her damage is magic damage so Armor Pen is useless on her, most There's not enough Hybrid items to go Hybrid, and she doesn't really auto attack that much so crit and attack speed aren't that good either. Therefore most AD items aren't actually that beneficial to Katarina.

So, basically, remove her AD ratios, raise her AP ratios a little, and she'd be fine.

Originally Posted by The Sherminator

On the contrary, a gunblade which yields AD and AP while giving you a slow to force someone to linger in your ulti longer than they would like is a hybrid item that synchronizes fairly well with her kit.

Originally Posted by Whyumai

Some stats to begin with yeah?
Gunblade (3400g)
Stats +45 attack damage
+65 ability power
+10% life steal
+20% spell vamp
Passive Unique - Reload: Your basic attacks and single target spells against champions reduce the cooldown of this item by 3 seconds.
Active Unique: Deals 150 + 40% of your ability power as magic damage and slows the target champion's movement speed by 40% for 2 seconds. 60 second cooldown.

Rylai's Crystal Sceptre (2900g)
Stats +80 ability power
+500 health
Passive Unique: Your spell damage will slow the target by 35% for 1.5 seconds (15% for multi-target spells, damage-over-time spells and spells with a cooldown time below 3 seconds).

So rylai's slow is on every spell cast and therefore for the duration of her ultimate. Gunblade's is 2 seconds. I'd argue with 44% slow on sinister steel + rylai's slow then continuing rylai's slow for the duration of her ultimate that's generally enough.

Lifesteal is essentially wasted so you're paying for stats you won't use (or at least won't use much of). Gunblade's active as damage is meh unless you have good AP. It's also around 500 gold more expensive and gives less AP. Build path is better on Gunblade though, with shorter gaps between potential purchases.

Gunblade does give spell vamp though, remove that spell vamp and see how many Katarina players still build Gunblade. Yeah, it's not the slow, but, you're right in that the slow is useful (i suppose). Also Katarina players do like that Gunblade. I just feel it's not as good as it could be for Katarina.

I think Katarina's AP ratios are around 3 AP. That's reasonably decent for a AP (although with the removal of AD ratios hopefully she's gain more AP ratios). She also scales with AP on every ability. She's better as AP. AD Katarina needs to go away already.

She's be easier to balance, better to play as, easier (more effective) choice of items, and you wouldn't be purchasing items that give stats you don't need if katarina was a straight AP champion.