Originally Posted by Survïvor

If the way things keep going, he might be viable in certain team comps. I have noticed that teams aren't running as nearly as much cc as they use to. 0 cc and Yi is god by all means of the term. I did wish Yi was viable in higher ELOs.

Originally Posted by CerealBoxOfDoom

In higher ELO's you don't need tons of CC. Their organized and don't have to worry about their few CC sources being wasteful noobs. This greatly increases one's workable options in champion select. At the end of the day, AP yi still can't do anything mindblowing. Pubstomping doesn't make you viable.

Originally Posted by ForTehAnarchy

Firstly i never reffered to turret diving as being "hard", either read my posts before posting, or dont, but if you dont then dont try putting words in my mouth. Turret diving EARLY in the game is supposed to come with CALCULATED RISKS. As in you must decide if your Pre level 6 is it worth risking a death for the kill(s), can i possibly escape with my summoner spells, etc then you decide based on that if you want to risk it.


Later in the games turrets are more protectors for the nexus than for their champs, but pre level 6 turrets protect champs while their partners base, or the other team tries to push through. Early game you dont turret dive unless your summoner spells are up and you know you can either flash out, or the kill(s) you get will be worth the death. How can you tell this is the case? Where do you run when you need to base? The turret, where do you stay when your partners at base? The turret. Early game you rely heavily on turrets to protect you while you base, or back you up while your partner is back at base. The later in the game it is the less and less you can rely on turrets to protect you, but games are decided early on. Those first few kills will dictate who will be fed and ganking later in the game, and who will be stuck back farming (TYPICALLY the case, but not always)

No other champ can survive an early Turret dive without using summoner spells, even mid game most champs especially carries still need to ult, or use a summoner spell to get out of a turret dive alive. Also, when do the most crucial turret dives happen? Early. The first few kills of the game can very easily snowball into a champ being overly fed, and a carry that can get fed early is a key ingredient in getting wins. And i have seen similar things, but only from other champs ults, like Kayles ult, or trynd, but neither are truly comparable because Meditate is a basic ability with the potential to be instantly refreshed while ults are not.

Originally Posted by ForTehAnarchy

Later in the games turrets are more protectors for the nexus than for their champs, but pre level 6 turrets protect champs while their partners base, or the other team tries to push through. Early game you dont turret dive unless your summoner spells are up and you know you can either flash out, or the kill(s) you get will be worth the death. How can you tell this is the case? Where do you run when you need to base? The turret, where do you stay when your partners at base? The turret. Early game you rely heavily on turrets to protect you while you base, or back you up while your partner is back at base. The later in the game it is the less and less you can rely on turrets to protect you, but games are decided early on. Those first few kills will dictate who will be fed and ganking later in the game, and who will be stuck back farming (TYPICALLY the case, but not always)

Originally Posted by ForTehAnarchy

No other champ can survive an early Turret dive without using summoner spells, even mid game most champs especially carries still need to ult, or use a summoner spell to get out of a turret dive alive.

Originally Posted by Survïvor

I wasnt referring to the "start a smurf and roll with Yi on nubs at level one and get a 35/0/0 kda because I need to make myself feel good" I was just meaning that any Melee ADC's arent viable in anyway at high elo.

Originally Posted by CerealBoxOfDoom

???

Whatever the context, yi still isn't viable whether AP or AD. Hear he has a good jungle clear time though.

Originally Posted by Survïvor

Sorry I probably got confused on what you meant, and Yi will never be viable with his current kit.