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01-04-2013

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Originally Posted by KamikazeArchon View Post
No, people who blame everyone else on their team have been here since the dawn of League. The Tribunal did not create them, and it's reduced their avenues of effective harassment.
Actually, giving trolls the ability to report innocent players INCREASED their avenues for harassment. Prior to the Tribunal trolls would simply be jerks and feed on purpose. Now they still do those things, but they also bait people into responding in order to get their victims banned.

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Even if you manage to get enough false reports to get to the Tribunal - a rare feat in and of itself - you are still almost certainly going to just get pardoned.
These people might disagree.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6060823/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/5849302/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/5951657/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/5958442/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/5987621/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6020412/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5625578/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5756146/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5857671/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5829887/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5834428/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5928162/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5930455/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5933898/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5953906/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5902078/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/5756146/
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/6024450/
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/6054891/
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/393928/
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http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/341507/
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/515951/
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I agree that report bullying is a problem, but not in the same way as you. Reports from people who report their teammates for losing their lane are worth nothing. They don't have any weight whatsoever; the Tribunal system automatically disregards them because they know those reports are most likely false.
False.

If your naive view of the system were correct then we wouldn't see these kinds of reports when voting on cases. However, even a single day's sample of cases reveals that the system is inundated with such reports, demonstrating that the report weighting feature is either broken or does not exist in the first place.

 
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False.

If your naive view of the system were correct then we wouldn't see these kinds of reports when voting on cases. However, even a single day's sample of cases reveals that the system is inundated with such reports, demonstrating that the report weighting feature is either broken or does not exist in the first place.
False: your list of cases is from many weeks apart. Also your list contains many valid punishes.

If your view of the system had any facts you wouldn't be a troll.

 
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Actually, giving trolls the ability to report innocent players INCREASED their avenues for harassment. Prior to the Tribunal trolls would simply be jerks and feed on purpose. Now they still do those things, but they also bait people into responding in order to get their victims banned.
And then they get banned for it.
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These people might disagree.
That would be because they don't understand the difference between anecdote and statistics. A hundred cases out of 20 million players is 0.0005%. That is, in fact, extraordinarily rare. Lower than the chance of getting killed by a lightning strike.

 
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Actually, giving trolls the ability to report innocent players INCREASED their avenues for harassment. Prior to the Tribunal trolls would simply be jerks and feed on purpose. Now they still do those things, but they also bait people into responding in order to get their victims banned.
Yes, they still do those things. But it's a fraction as often as it used to be. And as Kamikaze pointed out, getting falsely banned is fairly comparable to being struck by lightning in likelihood. Sounds like a great tradeoff for the community to me.

 
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I agree completely but wouldn't removing the option for reporting a bad player from the game entirely send a message that reporting people just for losing isn't right, that would lower the case load on the Tribunal making it easier even if they have it handled. Having that option to report people for bad sends the message that bad isn't right and is punishable, which would be the complete opposite of what Riot wants here.
The report for unskilled doesn't go to the tribunal, it just adjusts who you get matched up with.

The only abuse of the tribunal I see frequently is that people get reported for, as far as I can tell, just speaking Spanish. Even when it's polite Spanish, you see the occasional report for intentionally feeding when the person is like, 11/4.

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