I've been running around like a madman all morning to get as much support as possible for bringing warmog's back to this game mode. It was removed before because of the disproportionately unfair speed you could charge the old version to full, but now i'm not sure that it's a factor any more! Most people were a little BRUSQUE, but I managed to get a decent number, at least enough of those who really cared. Any help you guys can summon would be great!

Shen: "Yea I can't really splitpush on this insane map so this flaming cape isn't quite as helpful"
Olaf "Dude if I get Frozen Mallet every game I have like 3 items total by the end. Bummer"
Mundo "Uh, Mundo doesn't feel like himself right now, I just don't have enough health. I guess the flaming cape is alright. Sorry I don't feel like myself at 3k health I don't know why I'm talking this way. I think I'm having an identity crisis"
Rengar "RHHHAAAGHHHHWWRRRR! Oh ****, I'm dead"
Gangplank "Frozen Mallet is alright stop bothering me."
Irelia "That phage is for triforce bro"
Nidalee "Do people play me AD at all anymore?"

Well those are all that I could track down... or muster up..... that's weird why do those two phrases have opposite directions? Here's hoping we can get Riot to get these guys out of their existential malaise and back to their healthy ways. Bye now

I don't know...
1000 health from a single item in Dominion sounds pretty sketchy.

It's pretty much only 1k health, the regen is fairly negligible. Considering the relative strength of more damage focused characters right now, I'd be willing to say Warmog's return wouldn't be totally br0ken on dominion.

Rengar doesn't build warmogs... Or shouldn't and won't be, once he's fixed.

i dunno, the nerfs on rengar were because his core sr build was Sunfire+Warmogs and he still could one shot people

as for the topic, as much as i hate gp, the scourge has provn a point and i think this is the one and only time we both will agree on something: Frozen mallet is fine

Due to fact that Dominion has an average of 20 minutes ,you should have 3+ warmogs by 20 minutes and it would be kind of hard for people to kill that person with the warmogs.

I've thought about it, and I'm starting to think that maybe it would be okay to bring Warmogs back.
Maybe.

The prevalence of assassins and lack of bruisers is kind of sad, and armor as a stat is weaker due to the pen changes.

It could still be too strong, but it might be worth a shot to bring it back for a test.

Its still a 2.6k gold investment for each one (without the passive % regen stacking because it is 'unique'). Some champs can do it, but there are obvious sacrifices being made. I think certain champs need it badly--mainly the awesome bore lady and the poo pillar troll.

Even if people decide to fully stack HP like crazy, the BFT dot effect will scale accordingly and there is always at least 1 player with it---possibly more if people could build more tanky to counter the glass cannon assassins killing everything.

Things like ignite/grevious wounds type on-use could see more play/importance and force people into not automatically taking exhaust as well

Why do people say things like this? His entire combo does about 1k damage with no AD, at level 18. Talon could do the same thing with pure tank items. Many other champs could too... especially mages.

Rengars stacked HP to take advantage of the resource-free 15% heal. He was not one shotting anything with pure tank items... he was outlasting them.

then the first nerf should have been on sustain rather than damage i know they nerfed the armor granted by battle road but it sounds counterproductive nerfing something that
"everyone else" can do but leaving the problem as it is.

anyways in the case you are right, thanks for correcing :3.